🎙️ The Trackstaa Podcast I London 2026 Elite Race HOKA PB Protocol Preview with Ellis Cross & Andy Hobdell Live from HOKA Hub

The TRACKSTAA Podcast55mApril 25, 2026

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The Trackstaa Podcast live from HOKA Hub in London previews the 2026 elite marathon field with Ellis Cross and coach Andy Hobdell, dissecting the psychological and physical demands of a debut marathon. Ellis reflects on his 2:10 debut in Seville, revealing that the most profound lesson wasn't pace or training—but enduring grueling sessions while physically broken, learning that mental toughness is forged not in triumph, but in showing up when every fiber screams to quit. Andy emphasizes that the real breakthrough for elite athletes isn't talent alone, but the team environment: the banter, camaraderie, and shared struggle that fuel performance. He argues that the PB Protocol athletes are now in a 'performance' phase—not just development—because HOKA’s investment in a cohesive team culture has created a self-sustaining engine of excellence. The episode also delivers a stark warning: AI-generated coaching and doping remain the sport’s greatest threats, with both speakers calling for clean competition and a return to fundamentals. As the London Marathon looms, the consensus is clear—this isn’t just about breaking records, but about building legacy through relentless, collective effort.

Key Takeaways
1

Mental toughness in marathons is built not in fast runs, but in showing up when you're physically shattered and still completing the session.

2

The most valuable training insight from a debut marathon is learning to accept that some sessions will be slow and painful—this is part of the process.

3

Team culture is the hidden performance multiplier: banter, shared struggle, and collective energy make elite training sustainable and effective.

4

HOKA’s PB Protocol has evolved from athlete development to performance—now focused on world-class results and Olympic contention.

5

Doping and AI-generated coaching are the two biggest threats to the integrity of running, undermining fair competition and athlete trust.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

Welcome to the HOKA Hub

The episode opens with a sponsor ad for Robinson, promoting a holistic travel experience that blends relaxation, movement, and connection.

0:58
2 min

Ellis Cross’s Marathon Debut: 2:10 and the Mental Toll

“I had to kind of accept it for what it is and like, kind of appreciate that that is what is part of building towards a marathon if that makes sense.”

Highlight
3:00
2 min

The Coach’s Perspective: Why the First Marathon Matters

“Do you know what? I'm doing this. Yeah. And that was the biggest learning for me as a coach when you work with an athlete in their first marathon is you learn so much about them as a person.”

Highlight
5:00
3 min

HOKA’s PB Protocol: From Development to Performance

“We're at that point now where, you know, they're some of the best guys now in Europe and so therefore a bit more. And then we're into that world-class category.”

Highlight
8:00
4 min

The Power of Team Culture in Elite Running

The hosts debate the importance of camaraderie, banter, and shared struggle in training. Andy shares how the energy of a team can pull athletes through bad days and bad races.

High-Impact Quotes
“No super shoes. It's literally crazy. And I don't think there's one that tops that.”
— Ellis Cross•55:59
Viral: 86.0
“we're at that point now where, you know, they're some of the best guys now in Europe and so therefore a bit more. and then we're into that world -class”
— Andy Hobdell•41:05
Viral: 85.0
“Do you know what? I'm doing this. Yeah. And that was the biggest learning for me as a coach when you work with an athlete in their first marathon is you learn so much about them as a person.”
— Andy Hobdell•8:16
Viral: 82.0

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