What Nature Can Teach Us About Healing - with Dr. Beronda Montgomery
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In this heartfelt episode of Getting Better, host Jonathan Van Ness welcomes Dr. Beronda Montgomery, a plant biochemist and author of 'When Trees Testify,' for a deeply personal and enlightening conversation about the intersection of nature, history, and justice. The discussion unfolds against the backdrop of Earth Month and explores how plants—particularly ancient trees—serve as living witnesses to America's complex past, including the trauma of slavery and the resilience of Black botanical expertise. Dr. Montgomery shares how her own family history, rooted in Arkansas and Mississippi, connects to the legacy of enslaved people who were not only exploited but also brought profound knowledge in agriculture, horticulture, and healing. From the story of Anton, an enslaved man who pioneered the commercial pecan industry through grafting, to the symbolic power of willow trees that commemorate racial violence, the episode reveals how nature holds memory and resistance. Jonathan reflects on his own journey with gardening, anxiety, and urban life, while both guests emphasize the importance of slowing down, building relationships with plants, and recognizing the interdependence of all life. The conversation culminates in a powerful call to action: to live with intention, to honor ancestral legacies, and to move forward with the same relentless commitment as a tree root breaking through concrete.
Nature is not separate from us—it’s a living archive of history, trauma, and resilience, especially for Black Americans.
Plants like trees, pecans, and willows carry stories of survival, innovation, and resistance that have been erased from mainstream history.
The concept of 'Sankofa'—returning to retrieve what has been lost—offers a framework for reclaiming ancestral knowledge and healing.
Urban dwellers can cultivate deep connections with nature through small acts: growing herbs in windows, learning about plant origins, or simply observing trees over time.
The legacy of enslaved people includes advanced botanical expertise, from grafting pecans to using cotton root for reproductive autonomy.
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Earth Month & a Real-Life Meetup
Jonathan welcomes Dr. Beronda Montgomery to Getting Better for their first in-person meeting, celebrating their five-year friendship and launching the episode with Earth Month energy. They reflect on their shared love for plants, gardening, and the emotional journey of growing food in urban spaces.
Nature as a Teacher of Interdependence
“We are nature. We are nature and that's what's wrong with our planet is that somehow we take ourselves out of it and exploit the rest of it and that's not good for anybody.”
When Trees Testify: A Living Archive of History
“Their breath is captured in the tree. And I said, so now our breath can be captured and joined their breath in the tree.”
The Hidden Legacy of Black Botanical Expertise
“The pecan industry in the U.S. started with that variety. And so to think about the fact that this expertise of this enslaved African started an entire industry that's still going.”
Urban Nature Connection & the Power of Small Acts
For city dwellers without yards, Beronda offers practical ways to connect with nature: growing plants indoors, learning about the origins of spices, walking through parks, or simply observing trees through the seasons. She draws inspiration from Octavia Butler’s practice of journaling trees during transit.
“I just want to think about what it would mean if there were enough of us so committed to our purpose that we would move the sidewalk like a root.”
“I can't drop it today. My enslaved ancestors, my Jim Crow parents, all of them had a tougher time. I can't drop it today.”
“The idea that abortion isn't deeply rooted in this country's history is Christian nationalist revisionist history.”
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Dr. Beronda Montgomery
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Jonathan Van Ness
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When Trees Testify
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willow tree
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Lessons from Plants
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pecan tree
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Sankofa
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black walnut
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Dr. Jessica Hernandez
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cotton root
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