375 - Confidentiality and Data Privacy in the Age of AI
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This episode of the Counselling Tutor Podcast explores the critical intersection of confidentiality, data privacy, and artificial intelligence in modern therapeutic practice. Hosts Rory Lees-Oaks and Ken Kelly delve into the ethical and legal responsibilities of counsellors when using digital tools, emphasizing that client data—especially sensitive mental health information—is protected under UK GDPR and classified as 'special category data.' They stress that therapists remain legally and ethically accountable for data security, even when using third-party platforms. Key considerations include where data is stored (particularly outside the UK), whether data processing agreements (DPAs) are in place, and the risks of auto-deletion or data reuse by AI providers. The hosts warn against using off-the-shelf LLMs like ChatGPT with client data due to opaque data handling and potential use in training or advertising. They also highlight the 'invisible AI' risk in voice dictation tools, where spoken notes are processed externally. The episode concludes with practical guidance: three core questions to ask before adopting any digital tool—where data goes, whether it's stored outside the UK, and whether it can be reused—and the importance of due diligence and defensible decision-making. The episode also features a segment on building ethical, effective websites for therapists, emphasizing local positioning, honesty in representation, and security, followed by a discussion on managing disagreements in training and practice, advocating for self-reflection, respectful dialogue, and mediation when needed.
Therapists are legally and ethically responsible for client data, even when using third-party digital tools.
Always verify if a tool is UK GDPR compliant and request a data processing agreement (DPA) if data is stored outside the UK.
Never input client data into large language models (LLMs) like ChatGPT, as data may be used for training or advertising.
Be aware of 'invisible AI' in tools like voice dictation, which can transmit sensitive data to external servers.
Use the three-question framework: Where does client data go? Is it stored outside the UK? Can it be reused beyond therapy?
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Introduction and Episode Overview
Rory and Ken introduce the episode, outlining the three segments: ethical sustainable practice on AI and data privacy, Practice Matters with Dara McLaughlin on website design, and Student Services on handling disagreements with colleagues.
Confidentiality and Data Privacy in the Age of AI
“Never put any client data in any form whatsoever into a large language model. And off-the-shelf LLM like ChatGPT or Claude or Perplexity, there's a whole load of different platforms. Never put the client's data into that.”
The Secrets of a Successful Counselling Website
“If you're trying to be very generic and say, I'm an online counselor in the UK, I'm going to say you're going to face a very hard road to get any sort of traction in the search engines getting found.”
Handling Disagreements with Colleagues
“The classroom needs to be the space where you are trialling what is ultimately going to be the main gig out with clients.”
“Never put any client data in any form whatsoever into a large language model. And off-the-shelf LLM like ChatGPT or Claude or Perplexity, there's a whole load of different platforms. Never put the client's data into that.”
“I think that's the growth that I identified in doing this training is there isn't always necessarily an answer. Sometimes it's just peace in the grey and kind of getting on with things.”
“The classroom needs to be the space where you are trialling what is ultimately going to be the main gig out with clients.”
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Ken Kelly
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Rory Lees-Oaks
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UK GDPR
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Dara McLaughlin
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Counselling Tutor
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Sarah Henry
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Web Healer
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Counselling Tutor Podcast
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ChatGPT
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