371: AI in Counselling – Have Therapists Been Left Behind?

Counselling Tutor podcast1h 6mApril 11, 2026

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In episode 371 of the Counselling Tutor podcast, hosts Rory Lees-Oaks and Ken Kelly explore the growing role of AI in counselling, addressing the widespread concern among practitioners that they may be 'left behind' by technological advancement. Ken shares his personal journey of confronting AI’s disruptive potential in 2023, leading him to become Counseling Tutor’s AI lead and author of an upcoming book on Ethical AI Practice for UK therapists. The episode emphasizes that AI is already embedded in everyday tools—email, video platforms, practice management systems—and that therapists cannot opt out of engaging with it. Instead, the focus should be on ethical curiosity, critical thinking, and understanding how AI impacts practice, client care, and professional responsibility. The hosts stress that therapists don’t need to become technologists; they need to uphold ethical foundations, safeguard client data, and remain grounded in human-centered values. The discussion transitions into a practical conversation with therapist Jessica Wing on preparing for a first client, highlighting the emotional weight of this milestone, the importance of relational presence over perfection, and strategies for managing anxiety, self-regulation, and supervision. Finally, the episode delves into the philosophical distinction between humanism and person-centered therapy, using vivid analogies like rain and swimming pools to clarify that humanism is an umbrella philosophy emphasizing growth and personhood, while person-centered therapy is a specific model rooted in congruence, empathy, and unconditional positive regard.

Key Takeaways
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AI is already integrated into counselling tools—email, video platforms, practice systems—and cannot be ignored; therapists must engage with it ethically, not technically.

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Therapists are not left behind by AI; the real risk is ignoring it. Ethical reflection, not technical expertise, is the core professional responsibility.

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Preparing for your first client is a normal, emotional milestone. Focus on relational presence, self-regulation, and grounding rather than perfection.

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Relational presence—calmness, empathy, attunement—is more important than getting techniques 'right' in the first session.

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Humanism is a broad philosophical stance emphasizing human growth and dignity; person-centered therapy is a specific model built on that foundation.

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Chapters
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44 min

AI in Counselling: Are Therapists Left Behind?

You haven't been left behind. But the reality is, Ken, you can't opt out of the conversation.

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43:33
20 min

Preparing for Your First Client: Navigating Anxiety and Presence

Being present, being human can be so much more valuable, kind of reducing that power imbalance with a client where they're expecting you to be this professional who's going to have all the answers.

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1:03:40
47 min

Humanism vs. Person-Centered Therapy: Unpacking the Difference

Humanism is an overarching term for people who see clients first no matter what therapy they're practicing and see them as human first.

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High-Impact Quotes
Being present, being human can be so much more valuable, kind of reducing that power imbalance with a client where they're expecting you to be this professional who's going to have all the answers.
Jessica Wing36:10
Viral: 90.0
You haven't been left behind. But the reality is, Ken, you can't opt out of the conversation.
Rory Lees-Oaks4:28
Viral: 85.0
Humanism is an overarching term for people who see clients first no matter what therapy they're practicing and see them as human first.
Rory Lees-Oaks53:34
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Rory Lees-OaksKen Kelly

Guest

Jessica Wing
Topics Discussed
AI in counselling95%ethical practice90%first client anxiety85%relational presence80%humanism in therapy80%person-centered therapy80%therapist self-regulation75%supervision in practice70%
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Counselling Tutor

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Rory Lees-Oaks

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Ken Kelly

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Jessica Wing

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Carl Rogers

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National Counselling and Psychotherapy Society

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CSR Library

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Abraham Maslow

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British Association of Counselling and Psychotherapy

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Meg Moss

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