$STVN: are oral GLP-1s really a death blow? | Aurelian Research's Leo Trudel

Yet Another Value Podcast39mMay 5, 2026

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The market's reaction to oral GLP-1 drugs threatening Stevanato Group (STVN) may be overblown, according to Aurelian Research’s Leo Trudel. While the stock has fallen 50% from its peak amid fears that oral formulations will cannibalize demand for injectables, Trudel argues the decline reflects an overreaction to a narrative, not a fundamental breakdown. He highlights that only 10% of the target population currently uses GLP-1s, meaning massive growth potential remains even if oral versions capture market share. Crucially, injectables still dominate for severe cases—diabetes, morbid obesity, and elderly patients with adherence challenges—where efficacy matters most. Meanwhile, Stevanato’s capacity expansion wasn’t solely for GLP-1s; half its business is in broader biologics, which are growing at 15–18% annually and remain capacity-constrained. Trudel also emphasizes the company’s powerful moat: FDA ‘spec-in’ lock-in, where pharma companies lock in delivery systems early in R&D, making switching prohibitively expensive and time-consuming. With strong margin expansion from higher-value products and a path to free cash flow positivity, Trudel sees long-term compounding potential. Yet he acknowledges the stock’s high multiple and volatility, calling it a 'fine business' but not a value play in his personal style—lacking distress or event-driven catalysts.

Key Takeaways
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Only 10% of the target population currently uses GLP-1s, meaning massive growth remains even if oral versions gain share.

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Injectables still dominate for severe cases—diabetes, morbid obesity, and elderly patients—where efficacy and adherence are critical.

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Stevanato’s capacity expansion wasn’t just for GLP-1s; half its business is in broader biologics growing at 15–18% annually.

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FDA ‘spec-in’ lock-in creates a powerful moat: switching delivery systems requires years and millions in revalidation.

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The company’s revenue mix is shifting toward high-margin products, driving 1.2% EBITDA margin expansion per year without cost cuts.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Intro: The GLP-1 Disruption Narrative

Andrew Walker introduces Stevanato Group (STVN), a high-quality Italian manufacturer of injectable drug delivery systems, and sets up the central question: how will oral GLP-1s impact a company built on injectable demand? The stock has fallen 50% from its peak, raising concerns about overcapacity and obsolescence.

5:00
5 min

Sponsor: AlphaSense & AI in Earnings Season

AlphaSense sponsors the episode, highlighting how AI tools can dramatically reduce time spent analyzing earnings transcripts. Andrew shares how he uses AI to summarize dozens of company reports quickly, freeing up time for deeper analysis and creative work.

10:00
10 min

Stevanato’s Business Model & Market Position

Leo Trudel explains Stevanato’s core business: manufacturing glass vials and containment systems for biologics. With 23 of the 24 largest pharma companies as customers, including Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk, the company has deep customer lock-in and long-term revenue visibility.

20:00
10 min

The GLP-1 Boom, Bust, and Rebound

Trudel traces Stevanato’s stock history: a pandemic-driven IPO surge, a post-stocking dip, and a recovery fueled by the GLP-1 boom. He argues the current 50% decline is an overreaction to oral GLP-1 fears, not a fundamental collapse.

30:00
10 min

Why Oral GLP-1s Won’t Kill the Injectables

For higher severe case, basically, you need the injectable. So that's either it's for a case of diabetes that's very important, type 2 diabetes, for example, you need the injectable and oral doesn't do anything, basically.

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For higher severe case, basically, you need the injectable. So that's either it's for a case of diabetes that's very important, type 2 diabetes, for example, you need the injectable and oral doesn't do anything, basically.
Leo Trudel18:51
Viral: 88.0
capacity built out was not only for the GLP -1. It was for the rest of biologics. So if you're basically... And right now, they're capacity constrained. Still at the moment, last earnings call, that's what they're telling us.
Leo Trudel22:03
Viral: 85.0
Once you're specced in, it continues basically for the life of the drug, which is why everyone loves those businesses in the first place.
Leo Trudel28:26
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Andrew Walker

Guest

Leo Trudel
Topics Discussed
stevanato group95%oral glp-1 drugs92%glp-1 injectable vs oral90%biologics manufacturing88%regulatory moat85%pharma supply chain80%capital allocation75%ai in investment research70%
People & Brands

stevanato group

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28xPositive

glp-1

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18xNeutral

leo trudel

person

15xPositive

aurelian research

organization

6xPositive

alpha sense

organization

5xPositive

westpharma

organization

4xNeutral

novo nordisk

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3xNeutral

claude

other

3xNeutral

eli lilly

organization

3xNeutral

cowork

other

2xNeutral

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