Chadd Garcia drills into LandBridge's value
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Chad Garcia dives deep into LandBridge, a land-based royalty company in the Permian Basin that’s poised to benefit from massive growth in water management, data centers, and infrastructure. Despite trading at a seemingly high 22–30x EBITDA, Garcia argues the market is underpricing the company’s true value due to a lack of understanding of its business model and optionality. LandBridge’s core strength lies in its vast, underutilized pore space—over 7.5 million barrels per day of incremental capacity—earning 15 cents per barrel in royalty income with zero incremental cost. This alone could drive 25% compound annual free cash flow growth over five years, even without data center upside. Garcia highlights a 150% year-over-year free cash flow increase from a 2024 acquisition, demonstrating active land management as a key value driver. He also unpacks the complex corporate structure involving WaterBridge and PowerBridge, arguing that while it appears like financial engineering, the separate entities serve distinct LP interests and conflict committees ensure fairness. The data center thesis—backed by major players like Chevron, Microsoft, and Eric Schmidt’s Bolt—remains a high-conviction, long-term tailwind. Finally, Garcia reflects on the recent GFL acquisition of Secure, which validated his thesis that it’s a waste management play, not an energy play, though he personally finds the multiple too low.
LandBridge’s 7.5 million barrels per day of incremental pore space could generate $300 million in free cash flow over five years at 15 cents per barrel with zero incremental cost.
A 2024 acquisition boosted free cash flow by 150% year-over-year, proving LandBridge’s active land management creates significant value beyond passive royalty collection.
LandBridge trades at 22–30x EBITDA while TPL trades at 44x, despite similar asset bases—Garcia attributes the gap to market misunderstanding and underappreciation of operational execution.
The company’s structure with WaterBridge and PowerBridge is not financial engineering but a strategic alignment of distinct LP interests and conflict committees.
Data center growth in the Permian is real and accelerating, with Chevron, Microsoft, and Eric Schmidt’s Bolt all signaling serious commitment to the region.
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Introduction to LandBridge and the Permian Opportunity
Andrew Walker introduces Chad Garcia and sets the stage for a deep dive into LandBridge, a land-based royalty company in the Permian Basin. He frames it as a high-growth, underappreciated play tied to oil, water, and data centers, with Chad having long been a leading voice on Permian land plays.
The Evolution of Land-Based Royalty Companies: From TPL to LandBridge
Garcia traces the history of TPL, formed from railroad land after a 19th-century bankruptcy, and explains how its modern value comes from mineral royalties, source water, produced water, and surface easements. He contrasts TPL’s 30x EBITDA multiple with LandBridge’s 22–30x, setting up the valuation puzzle.
LandBridge’s Business Model: Pore Space, Surface Use, and Strategic Acquisitions
Garcia breaks down LandBridge’s revenue streams: 73% from surface-use royalties (mostly pore space), 20% from resource sales (fracture sand, gravel, source water), and 6% from minerals. He emphasizes that LandBridge doesn’t chase minerals—its focus is on infrastructure and growth.
The 7.5 Million Barrel Per Day Pore Space Opportunity
“They could see it pretty easily that in the next five years that they can go through 5 million barrels a day of incremental pore space and they get paid presently 15 cents a barrel, which is all profit and it's a royalty.”
Valuation Disparity: Why LandBridge Trades at a Discount to TPL
Despite similar asset bases, TPL trades at 44x EBITDA while LandBridge trades at 22–30x. Garcia attributes this to market misunderstanding, short interest from TMT investors, and the belief that LandBridge is just a royalty play—when it’s actually a growth engine.
“They could see it pretty easily that in the next five years that they can go through 5 million barrels a day of incremental pore space and they get paid presently 15 cents a barrel, which is all profit and it's a royalty.”
“Our 2024 acquisitions, we increased the free cash flow at those acquisitions by 150% year over year in 2025.”
“opt -take agreement with a hyperscaler. You know, it's fits and starts. I would say like, you know, if we were doing this January 2025, the DeepSeek news, it was like, oh, it's an overbuild.”
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