Montaigne
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In this episode of Off Menu, James Acaster and Ed Gamble welcome musician Montaigne (real name Jess) to their dream restaurant, where they explore her new album 'It's Hard To Be A Fish' and craft a full vegan dream menu. The conversation unfolds with playful banter, personal reflections, and deep dives into music, identity, and food. Montaigne shares how the album emerged from a breakup, estrangement from her parents, and her queerness, using the metaphor of a fish to explore themes of survival, compassion, and fluid identity. The dream menu features sparkling water, focaccia, a vegetable trio of leek, fennel, and celeriac, a lentil bolognese made by her partner, blackened carrots, a spicy Bloody Mary, and a vegan tiramisu from Smith & Daughters. The episode is rich with humor, self-awareness, and heartfelt moments, including reflections on Australian culture, veganism, and the absurdity of life—like throwing fettuccine at walls to test doneness or imagining a Truman Show within a Truman Show. The hosts celebrate Montaigne’s artistry while poking fun at their own quirks, ending with a warm appreciation for her music and a reminder to support independent artists through Bandcamp and Patreon.
Use metaphors like 'fish' to explore complex emotions—identity, grief, and resilience—through art.
A well-structured dream menu can reflect emotional and physical journey: light starter, hearty main, rich dessert.
Vegan cuisine has advanced dramatically—especially in desserts and fine dining—making it both delicious and emotionally resonant.
Support independent artists directly: streaming doesn't pay, so use Bandcamp, Patreon, and live shows.
Humor and vulnerability go hand-in-hand—especially when discussing personal struggles like family estrangement or queerness.
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Welcome to the Dream Restaurant
The hosts introduce the podcast, set the tone with playful banter about Toblerone and Shakespeare, and welcome Montaigne as the guest. They establish the format: a dream menu of starter, main, side, drink, and dessert, with a secret ingredient twist.
The Secret Ingredient: Fish
“The secret ingredient is not Toblerone. The secret ingredient is? Fish. It's fish. Because the album's got the word fish in it.”
Montaigne's Album: 'It's Hard To Be A Fish'
“We're all fish man. We're all being hunted by someone or something. We've all got our own thing. We have to remember that.”
Dream Menu: Sparkling Water & Focaccia
The hosts and guest discuss the highbrow experience of fine dining, especially the symbolic weight of sparkling water. Montaigne shares her preference for high-quality, unmarked sparkling water and reflects on authenticity in luxury settings.
The Dream Main: Lentil Bolognese & Vegetables
“I would request that instead of scraping it into a bin, you put it on my plate. Maybe that's the modification. Maybe that's my take.”
“I don't think I've ever made any money from streaming. Well, I've left my label now. I've not made any money from my time with my label despite having really big songs.”
“We're all fish man. We're all being hunted by someone or something. We've all got our own thing. We have to remember that.”
“It was one of the most delicious things I've ever eaten in my whole life. It was so good.”
Hosts
Guest
Ed Gamble
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James Acaster
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Montaigne
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It's Hard To Be A Fish
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Smith & Daughters
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Bloody Mary
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Lentil Bolognese
other
Benito
person
Tiramisu
other
Bake Off
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