Menachos 78
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This episode of Daf Yomi with Dovid Charnowitz explores Menachos 78, focusing on the types of meal offerings (Menachos) brought during the initiation (Miluim) of the Kohen Gadol, particularly the three types of matzah—Chalas, Rikikin, and Revucha. The discussion begins with a detailed analysis of the Mishnah, clarifying that the Miluim offering includes all three types of matzah, unlike the Nazir, who brings only two. The Gemara derives the presence of Revucha (scalded matzah) from a comparison to the Minchas Chavitin, which is known to contain Revucha. The episode also examines the halachic implications of where and how the lechem (bread) must be situated relative to the korban: if the lechem is outside Yerushalayim, it is not sanctified, though the exact location (Azarah or Yerushalayim) is debated between Rav Yechenon and Reish Lakish. A major discussion centers on the requirement for proper baking—specifically, that the lechem must be sufficiently baked so that when cracked, it does not have connecting threads, a standard derived from the laws of matzah. The episode concludes with a complex machlokes (dispute) between Tzitzis, Rav Yechenon, and Abaya regarding whether 40 of 80 loaves can be sanctified when the owner’s intent is unclear. The resolution hinges on whether a kli (vessel) or the knife (saken) used in shechita can override the owner’s invalid intention, with Repapa offering a nuanced view that the knife, as a tool of shechita, may have special sanctifying power.
The Miluim offering includes all three types of matzah: Chalas, Rikikin, and Revucha, unlike the Nazir, who brings only two.
Revucha is derived not from the word 'Shemen' in the pasuk, but from a comparison to Minchas Chavitin, which is known to contain Revucha.
The lechem must be properly baked—cracking it should not reveal connecting threads—similar to the standard for matzah on Pesach.
If the lechem is outside Yerushalayim, it is not sanctified, though the exact boundary (Azarah vs. Yerushalayim) is debated.
When bringing 80 loaves with unclear intent, the halachic outcome depends on whether a kli or the knife (saken) can override the owner’s invalid intention to sanctify all 80.
Introduction to the Three Types of Matzah in the Miluim Offering
The episode begins with a review of the Mishnah on Menachos 78, focusing on the three types of matzah—Chalas, Rikikin, and Revucha—that constitute the Minchas Toda. The discussion centers on why the Miluim offering includes all three, while the Nazir brings only two.
Deriving Revucha from Minchas Chavitin
“Just like the Hamshachai, the Karban Meshicha, the Karban Chavitin has revucha, so we see that a Karban Chinuch also has revucha.”
The Sanctity of Lechem Based on Location
A key discussion arises over whether the lechem must be inside Yerushalayim or the Azarah to become sanctified. Rav Yechenon holds it suffices to be in Yerushalayim, while Reish Lakish insists it must be in the Azarah.
The Requirement of Proper Baking for Sanctification
“If you break it and it connects together, that shows that it wasn't cooked inside. And so in order to be yitzah o matzah noh, the bar that you have to meet is that when you crack it open, it cracks.”
The Machlokes on Sanctifying 40 of 80 Loaves
“The question is, can a klisharis be mekadesh shaloy midas? Can it supersede what the ba'alim want?”
“If you break it and it connects together, that shows that it wasn't cooked inside. And so in order to be yitzah o matzah noh, the bar that you have to meet is that when you crack it open, it cracks.”
“Just like the Hamshachai, the Karban Meshicha, the Karban Chavitin has revucha, so we see that a Karban Chinuch also has revucha.”
“The question is, can a klisharis be mekadesh shaloy midas? Can it supersede what the ba'alim want?”
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Menachos
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Revucha
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Dovid Charnowitz
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Miluim
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Chalas
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Rikikin
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Yerushalayim
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Nazir
person
Minchas Chavitin
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Rav Yechenon
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