Menachos 70
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This episode of Daf Yomi with Dovid Charnowitz explores complex halachic discussions from Menachos 70, focusing on the status of grain and produce in relation to the Omer offering. The primary topics include whether replanted produce that has already had Ma'aser taken must be re-tithed, the halachic distinction between normal and unusual planting methods, and the implications of growth in pots without holes. The discussion delves into the status of Truma and Ma'aser when produce is re-planted after tithing, with debates over whether the original root (ikar) or the new growth (tosefes) is considered the primary entity. The episode also examines the concept of 'Tomas Eichlin'—the requirement that grain used for Challah must be without chaff, depending on whether the chaff is still protective (moist) or dry. A central theme is the timing of when new grain (Chadash) becomes permissible, with a detailed analysis of whether the trigger is the cutting of the Omer (Kitsiras Omer) or its bringing to the Temple (Hava'as Ha'Omer). The episode concludes with a review of the five grains that are halachically significant for Challah, Matzah, and Chametz, emphasizing that only wheat, barley, spelt, oats, and rye qualify, excluding rice and other grains. The episode builds on prior discussions, integrating multiple layers of Talmudic reasoning, including debates between Rava, Abaya, and Shmuel, and the application of principles like 'Im Tim Salamah' and 'L'Chumrah'. It clarifies the distinction between different types of growth, the legal status of produce in containers, and the conditions under which one can be obligated in Truma or Ma'aser. The host emphasizes the importance of precise timing and context in halachic rulings, particularly regarding the Omer and the transition from forbidden Chadash to permitted grain. The discussion is rich with textual analysis, referencing Mishnayot, Gemaras, and Rashi, and underscores the intricate nature of agricultural halachot in Jewish law.
Replanted produce that had Ma'aser taken must be re-tithed if the planting is considered unusual, not a normal agricultural practice.
The Omer's timing is critical: Chadash becomes permitted only after the Hava'as Ha'Omer, not necessarily at the time of cutting.
Only five grains—wheat, barley, spelt, oats, and rye—are considered valid for Challah, Matzah, and Chametz; rice and other grains are excluded.
For Challah, grain must be 'mitzta'rif'—free of chaff—especially when the chaff is no longer protective (dry), otherwise it's not considered valid.
Produce in a pot without a hole is considered Chayiv in Truma and Ma'aser Midar Aiso, and if a hole is later added, the status changes based on when growth occurred.
Replanting After Ma'aser: The Ikar vs. Tosefes Debate
“Imtim salemar lukula, we don't go basur the iser, which means what? Which means that what you put in the ground, whatever is produced afterwards would be user.”
Pots Without Holes: Truma and Ma'aser in Container-Grown Produce
The discussion shifts to produce grown in pots without holes, which are considered disconnected from the ground and thus subject to different halachic rules. The key question is whether produce that grows in such a pot, initially Chayiv in Truma and Ma'aser Midar Rabbanon, becomes Chayiv in Midar Rishon after a hole is added. The Gemara debates whether the growth is continuous or two separate events.
Meruach and the Reversal of Tevel Status
“If you bend down and eat it, it's butla deitzel kolodom, it's not considered an achilah.”
The Omer and the Timing of Chadash Permissibility
“The Omer triggers it. Now, the question is what of the Omer? Is it the Kitsiras Omer or the Hava Asaymer?”
The Five Grains: Defining Validity for Challah and Matzah
The episode concludes with a detailed analysis of the five grains that are halachically valid for Challah, Matzah, and Chametz: wheat, barley, spelt, oats, and rye. The host explains why rice and other grains are excluded, using the principle that only grains capable of becoming Chametz can be used for Matzah. The discussion also clarifies the distinction between 'mitzta'rif' and 'not mitzta'rif' based on chaff and moisture.
“The Omer triggers it. Now, the question is what of the Omer? Is it the Kitsiras Omer or the Hava Asaymer?”
“If you bend down and eat it, it's butla deitzel kolodom, it's not considered an achilah.”
“Imtim salemar lukula, we don't go basur the iser, which means what? Which means that what you put in the ground, whatever is produced afterwards would be user.”
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Dovid Charnowitz
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Chaff
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