Oliver Tree Talks Shrek, New Album "Love You Madly Hate You Badly," Antartica and "Life Goes On"
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Oliver Tree sits down with Zach Sang for a candid, whirlwind conversation that dives deep into his latest album, 'Love You Madly Hate You Badly,' a project born from two years of solo travel across 82 countries and seven continents. He reveals he recorded the entire album in hotel rooms using minimal gear, rejecting traditional studio costs and labels to reclaim creative control. The album, which explores the duality of love and hate, was shaped by personal transformation, self-discovery, and a radical redefinition of success—moving from material wealth to true freedom and authenticity. Tree recounts harrowing experiences like being pulled over by cops, surviving gun confrontations, and living with the Maasai tribe in Tanzania, where he was even crowned a chief. He also discusses his guerrilla filmmaking journey, including shooting his Antarctica documentary and recording songs in war-torn Iraq and banned music zones in Afghanistan. Despite widespread rejection of the album—even by his parents—Tree stands by it as a deeply personal, self-made masterpiece. He reflects on the fleeting nature of fame, the communal nature of ideas, and his decision to leave all his wealth to a foundation supporting young artists, not education. The episode is a raw, poetic testament to art as a spiritual act, not a commodity.
Record your art in the moment—capture joy as well as pain, not just when you're suffering.
True freedom isn't wealth, but the ability to say no to anything that doesn't align with your purpose.
Success isn't measured in followers or money, but in the ability to live authentically and create without compromise.
The most powerful art comes from solitude, self-love, and being present with yourself.
Ideas are communal—no one owns them. Your job is to be the first to channel them.
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Shrek, Cameras, and a Close Call
Oliver Tree arrives at the studio dressed as Shrek, sparking laughter and a playful discussion about his chaotic journey to the interview, including being pulled over by police and narrowly avoiding a gun confrontation.
The Album Born in 82 Countries
“I made the album in 82 countries. I have my whole studio in my backpack.”
Love, Hate, and the Power of Self-Discovery
“I was learning to literally just enjoy spending time with myself and learning to love myself.”
The Myth of Originality and the Ether of Ideas
“Ideas are communal, right? Like it's up to you to grab them when they hit you and make the most.”
From Shrek to Shattering the Dream
“I've set it up that when I pass, all the money's going to go back to artists.”
“I've set it up that when I pass, all the money's going to go back to artists.”
“I made the album in 82 countries. I have my whole studio in my backpack.”
“Everyone hated it but I love it and that's the reality is this one's for me.”
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Life Goes On
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