Melanie C, Toddler 'skinfluencers', Bryony Gordon

Woman's Hour55mApril 23, 2026

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Woman's Hour explores themes of identity, resilience, and societal pressures through powerful conversations with Melanie C, Bryony Gordon, and Maddy Haining. Melanie C reflects on her journey from Spice Girl to solo artist, embracing her 50s with confidence, authenticity, and a new album infused with dance energy. She opens up about past struggles with body image, eating disorders, and the toxic nature of fame, while advocating for self-acceptance and the importance of saying 'no' to people-pleasing. Bryony Gordon, author of the new novel *People Pleaser*, discusses how perfectionism and people-pleasing have shaped her life and work, drawing from her seven memoirs and her own mental health journey. Her novel imagines a world where a woman finally breaks free from the need to please, offering a bold, liberating vision. The episode also confronts urgent social issues, including the rise of toddler 'skinfluencers' on TikTok, raising alarms about child exploitation and psychological harm, and the case of 18-year-old wheelchair user Maddy Haining, who was unjustly ejected from a Manchester nightclub, sparking a national conversation about disability rights and the enforcement of the Equality Act. Callie Hauger-Thackeray shares her inspiring story of running the Boston Marathon at 22 weeks pregnant, highlighting the strength and support systems that make such feats possible. Together, the episode celebrates courage, self-worth, and the ongoing fight for inclusion and authenticity in a world that too often demands conformity.

Key Takeaways
1

Embrace your 'failed perfectionist' identity—aim for excellence, but accept imperfection.

2

Saying 'no' is an act of self-respect and a necessary step toward authenticity.

3

Child influencers under five are being exposed to harmful beauty standards; urgent regulation is needed.

4

Disabled people have a legal right to access public spaces—venues must proactively remove barriers.

5

Pregnancy and elite athleticism are not mutually exclusive; listen to your body and trust your strength.

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Chapters
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10 min

Melanie C: From Spice Girl to Self-Authored Icon

I'm a failed perfectionist now. Not a perfectionist. But yeah, as soon as I was creating this life inside of me, I was like, this body is amazing. I want to start looking after it better.

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10:00
10 min

Bryony Gordon: The Novel That Liberates

Perfectionism is a tool of the patriarchy to keep us small, right? And that's what it did to me.

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20:00
10 min

The Rise of Toddler Skinfluencers and the Ethics of Childhood

When I think about my generation, you know, I grew up and I think makeup or cosmetic stuff came into play really in my teen early teen years... now to see like a two-year-old to camera doing a full get ready with me.

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30:00
10 min

Maddy Haining: The Fight for Access and Dignity

18-year-old wheelchair user Maddy Haining recounts being ejected from Manchester’s Club Tropicana within minutes of arrival, citing a 'fire hazard' claim. She confronts the venue with the Equality Act, only to be ignored. The episode examines the legal duty of businesses to make reasonable adjustments and the ongoing struggle for disabled people to access everyday spaces.

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10 min

Callie Hauger-Thackeray: Running a Marathon at 22 Weeks Pregnant

Bronze medalist Callie Hauger-Thackeray shares her journey of running three marathons during her pregnancy, including the Boston Marathon at 22 weeks. She discusses the medical green light, her husband’s coaching, and the overwhelming support she received—challenging outdated beliefs about pregnancy and athleticism.

High-Impact Quotes
Perfectionism is a tool of the patriarchy to keep us small, right? And that's what it did to me.
Bryony Gordon28:08
Viral: 90.0
I'm a failed perfectionist now. Not a perfectionist. But yeah, as soon as I was creating this life inside of me, I was like, this body is amazing. I want to start looking after it better.
Melanie C13:14
Viral: 85.0
We have forgotten what real bodies look like. We really have.
Bryony Gordon35:24
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Anita Rani

Guests

Melanie CBryony GordonMaddy HainingCallie Hauger-Thackeray
Topics Discussed
self-acceptance and body image95%people-pleasing and mental health90%child influencers and social media ethics85%patriarchy and perfectionism80%disability rights and accessibility80%pregnancy and elite athleticism75%fame and media scrutiny70%the power of storytelling70%
People & Brands

Anita Rani

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100xNeutral

Melanie C

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87xPositive

Bryony Gordon

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65xPositive

Maddy Haining

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32xPositive

Callie Hauger-Thackeray

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28xPositive

TikTok

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18xNegative

Spice Girls

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14xPositive

The Guardian

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12xNeutral

Club Tropicana

organization

10xNegative

Equality Act 2010

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8xPositive

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