Will Trump & Co. Go After Cuba Next? with Jon Lee Anderson

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast51mApril 14, 2026

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In this episode of 'Why Is This Happening?', host Chris Hayes explores the escalating crisis in Cuba, driven by a new U.S. energy blockade under Donald Trump's administration. Following the abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and the severing of Venezuela's oil supply to Cuba, the U.S. has imposed a de facto fuel embargo, cutting off all foreign oil shipments. With Cuba producing only 40,000 barrels a day but needing 100,000, the nation faces a humanitarian catastrophe: collapsing power grids, no public transportation, stalled medical procedures, rampant disease, and widespread garbage accumulation. Veteran journalist Jon Lee Anderson, author of 'Is Cuba Next?' in The New Yorker, provides historical context, tracing Cuba’s economic struggles from the Soviet collapse through the stabilizing role of Hugo Chávez’s Venezuela. He explains how Cuba’s fragile state capitalism—marked by periodic reforms and crackdowns—has failed to deliver systemic change, leaving the country vulnerable to external pressure. Hayes and Anderson debate whether the U.S. strategy is truly about regime change or simply a transactional power play to extract leverage, with Trump’s provocative rhetoric echoing his 'Access Hollywood' past. The episode reveals deep contradictions: while Cuban-Americans in Miami demand regime change, many also rely on remittances and flights to support family, creating moral and political tension. The Cuban government, now mobilizing militarily and preparing for a prolonged standoff, appears to be betting on a U.S. political shift in November, hoping the Trump administration’s faltering foreign policy in Iran will limit its ability to act in Cuba. The risk of civil unrest or a humanitarian disaster looms, but a full-scale military invasion remains unlikely unless chaos erupts. Key takeaways include: 1) Cutting off fossil fuels to a nation with no domestic production is a deliberate strategy to induce collapse, not just economic hardship. 2) The U.S. is attempting to turn Cuba into a dependent client state through economic coercion, not liberation. 3) Cuban resilience is rooted in a deep historical narrative of resistance, which the current U.S. administration appears to misunderstand. 4) The Cuban government is likely playing a long game, using the crisis to stall and survive until the next U.S. election. 5) The humanitarian cost is already severe, with hospitals, water systems, and sanitation failing, and disease spreading unchecked. 6) The role of figures like Marco Rubio and Carlos Jiménez highlights the deep ideological rift within the Cuban-American community. 7) The U.S. strategy may be more about political theater and domestic optics than real foreign policy. 8) The risk of unintended consequences—such as a Haitian-style collapse—is real and could force a U.S. response, even if not desired.

Key Takeaways
1

Cutting off fossil fuels to a nation with no domestic production is a deliberate strategy to induce collapse, not just economic hardship.

2

The U.S. is attempting to turn Cuba into a dependent client state through economic coercion, not liberation.

3

Cuban resilience is rooted in a deep historical narrative of resistance, which the current U.S. administration appears to misunderstand.

4

The Cuban government is likely playing a long game, using the crisis to stall and survive until the next U.S. election.

5

The humanitarian cost is already severe, with hospitals, water systems, and sanitation failing, and disease spreading unchecked.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Crisis in Cuba: A Humanitarian Catastrophe

If you take any country in the world that has no domestic fossil fuel production, which is true of Cuba, and you cut it off from fossil fuel, you will grind it to a halt and you will quickly push it into a desperate ditch of poverty.

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10:00
10 min

The Soviet Collapse and the Rise of Venezuela as a Lifeline

Jon Lee Anderson traces Cuba’s economic history, explaining how the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 plunged the island into the 'Special Period'—a time of extreme scarcity. Fidel Castro was forced to legalize the dollar, allow tourism, and enter into joint ventures. The situation was stabilized when Hugo Chávez came to power in Venezuela and began sending free oil to Cuba in exchange for Cuban medical and educational workers.

20:00
10 min

Cuba’s Failed Reforms and the Rise of Military Capitalism

Anderson details how Cuba has experimented with limited market reforms—'cuenta propia'—allowing private entrepreneurship, but always under tight state control. The military, through a powerful holding company, has become a dominant economic force, funding itself while the civilian government is neglected. Despite calls for a 'Deng Xiaoping' model, Cuba has remained stuck in a cycle of reform and retrenchment.

30:00
10 min

The Obama Opening and the Trump Freeze

The episode examines the thaw in U.S.-Cuba relations under Obama, including diplomatic normalization, tourism, and business engagement. However, this progress was reversed under Trump, who reinstated the Helms-Burton Act, declared Cuba a hostile power, and froze all bilateral progress. The Cuban-American community in Miami, particularly conservative figures, played a key role in pushing for this hardline stance.

40:00
10 min

The New Executive Order and the Energy Blockade

This decree, this executive order allows the United States to impose a energy blockade on Cuba in which the United States will prevent any fuel from reaching Cuba and will go after all other nations who try to circumvent that blockade and get it to Cuba.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you take any country in the world that has no domestic fossil fuel production, which is true of Cuba, and you cut it off from fossil fuel, you will grind it to a halt and you will quickly push it into a desperate ditch of poverty.
Jon Lee Anderson34:43
Viral: 92.0
They would like Cuba to be dependent on the United States to the extent that they acknowledge it and therefore gives them something in return. In other words, you're ours, we own you. We can do anything we want with you, like Trump says. Now give us something in return.
Jon Lee Anderson41:40
Viral: 90.0
This decree, this executive order allows the United States to impose a energy blockade on Cuba in which the United States will prevent any fuel from reaching Cuba and will go after all other nations who try to circumvent that blockade and get it to Cuba.
Jon Lee Anderson32:58
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Chris Hayes

Guest

Jon Lee Anderson
Topics Discussed
Cuba energy blockade95%Humanitarian crisis in Cuba94%Cuban economic crisis92%U.S.-Cuba relations90%Trump foreign policy88%Historical context of Cuban revolution87%Cuban diaspora politics85%Military mobilization in Cuba82%
People & Brands

Cuba

place

45xNegative

United States

place

32xNegative

Donald Trump

person

28xNegative

Jon Lee Anderson

person

15xPositive

Fidel Castro

person

14xPositive

Chris Hayes

person

12xNeutral

Venezuela

place

12xNegative

Nicolás Maduro

person

10xNegative

Hugo Chávez

person

9xPositive

Raul Castro

person

8xNeutral

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