Crypto and The Golden Age of Scams with Ben McKenzie

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast51mApril 21, 2026

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In a blistering examination of modern financial delusion, Ben McKenzie—actor, director, and co-author of the bestselling book *Easy Money*—reveals how cryptocurrency has evolved from a niche tech curiosity into a dominant cultural and political force built on systemic fraud, predatory psychology, and the exploitation of male insecurity. The documentary *Everyone is Lying to You for Money*, which McKenzie directed, exposes crypto not as a revolutionary financial tool but as a high-stakes con that thrives on FOMO, misinformation, and the illusion of easy wealth. From the collapse of Celsius, a platform promising guaranteed returns that was essentially a Ponzi scheme, to El Salvador’s abandoned 'Bitcoin City' and the Trump family’s crypto-driven wealth, McKenzie traces a pattern of manipulation where belief becomes identity. He argues that crypto’s real use case isn’t payments—it’s gambling, laundering, and psychological control, enabled by a 24/7, frictionless digital environment that preys on young men’s risk-seeking behavior and fragile sense of self-worth. The episode culminates in a damning indictment of how the same forces that fueled the 2008 financial crisis—distrust in institutions—have been weaponized by both crypto evangelists and political con artists like Donald Trump, who exploit the same narrative: 'The system is rigged, but I’m the only one who can fix it.

Key Takeaways
1

Crypto’s real use case is not payments—it’s gambling, money laundering, and psychological manipulation, not financial innovation.

2

The 5-6% of Americans who believe in crypto are not just investors—they’re part of a cult-like community built on shared delusion and identity.

3

Celsius was a textbook Ponzi scheme: promising guaranteed returns, using client funds to gamble, and collapsing after a few months.

4

Tether, the largest stablecoin, facilitates an estimated $154 billion in criminal activity annually, acting as a digital hawala system for sanctioned oil, drones, and weapons.

5

The Trump family’s wealth now relies heavily on crypto—$500 million from a UAE sheik, pardons for Binance’s CEO, and exclusive access for investors via FaceTime.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Golden Age of Scams

Chris Hayes opens with a bleak assessment of modern life, where the noise is sharp and the disparities are growing. He introduces the central theme: that the current era is defined by a cultural and financial frenzy driven by scams—especially in crypto—where the only way to get ahead is through gambling, not work.

2:00
3 min

Ben McKenzie’s Journey into Crypto

Ben McKenzie recounts how his curiosity about crypto began with a friend’s bad stock tip during the pandemic. His fascination with behavioral economics, true crime, and the irrationality of human behavior led him to investigate the crypto boom, eventually turning his research into a book and a documentary.

5:00
5 min

The Celsius Scam: A Modern Ponzi Scheme

I'm asking about frauds. Isn't fraud a problem in the industry? He's like, well, you leave money on the streets. You expect it to be there when you get back? That's exactly what he says.

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10:00
5 min

Crypto’s Language of Lies

McKenzie exposes how crypto uses deceptive terminology—'decentralized' when it’s centralized, 'stable' when it’s volatile, 'DAOs' when they’re neither autonomous nor organized—to create a false sense of legitimacy and innovation.

15:00
5 min

The Cult of Bitcoin: El Salvador’s 'Bitcoin City'

Why don't you just sell it? Why don't you sell it and live now with whatever money you have? And he just couldn't, he can't sell it because to sell it would give up on the dream.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
The only difference between literally handing him the money is like, oh no, we converted it into a quote unquote cryptocurrency, right? It's like, okay. If he stood in the door with a bag of- A kava bag? Yes, exactly.
Ben McKenzie33:55
Viral: 92.0
Why don't you just sell it? Why don't you sell it and live now with whatever money you have? And he just couldn't, he can't sell it because to sell it would give up on the dream.
Ben McKenzie16:08
Viral: 88.0
I'm asking about frauds. Isn't fraud a problem in the industry? He's like, well, you leave money on the streets. You expect it to be there when you get back? That's exactly what he says.
Ben McKenzie9:41
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Chris Hayes

Guest

Ben McKenzie
Topics Discussed
crypto scams95%trump crypto92%money laundering90%celsius scam90%tether stablecoin88%male risk-taking85%sports gambling80%behavioral economics75%
People & Brands

chris hayes

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15xNeutral

donald trump

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14xNegative

ben mckenzie

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12xNeutral

celsius

organization

8xNegative

tether

organization

7xNegative

el salvador

place

6xNeutral

jacob silverman

person

5xNeutral

matt damon

person

4xNegative

cantor fitzgerald

organization

3xNegative

cz

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3xNegative

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