Connecting Search and Social

Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast31mApril 13, 2026

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Nearly 60% of Google searches in the U.S. now end without a click—meaning traditional SEO metrics like rankings are no longer enough. In this episode of Voices of Search, Jordan Cooney sits down with Celeste Gonzalez, SEO Testing Director at RicketyRoo and founder of the LA SEO Meetup Group, to explore the future of search: search experience optimization (SXO). Gonzalez argues that the real opportunity lies not in chasing rankings, but in understanding user behavior across search, social media, and on-site interactions. She shares how social platforms like TikTok and Instagram are not just marketing channels but vital sources of real user insights—especially for local businesses that lack AI traffic. Her own Chrome extension for analyzing Google Business Profile reviews demonstrates how scrappy, self-built tools can uncover actionable data that traditional platforms miss. The episode reveals a powerful shift: SEO is no longer about indexing and keywords, but about building user-centric experiences across channels. Gonzalez emphasizes that creativity in SEO comes not from AI-generated content, but from leveraging unique client data and fostering human connection through community. The key takeaway? Stop treating search as a silo. The future belongs to those who connect data from social, search, and on-site behavior into a unified user experience strategy.

Key Takeaways
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60% of Google searches in the U.S. now end without a click—rankings alone are no longer a reliable metric for success.

2

Social platforms like TikTok and Instagram are not just marketing tools but vital sources of real user insights, especially for local businesses with no AI traffic.

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Build lightweight, scrappy tools (like Chrome extensions or Colab notebooks) to analyze review sentiment and content performance—no coding experience required.

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Use session recordings to understand user behavior on your site—this metric is more valuable than rankings for identifying conversion roadblocks.

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Search experience optimization (SXO) means putting user experience at the center, not just search engine algorithms.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The End of Rankings-Only SEO

Jordan Cooney opens the episode by highlighting that 60% of Google searches in the U.S. now end without a click, signaling a fundamental shift in SEO. The focus must now move beyond rankings to understanding user behavior across search, social, and on-site interactions.

2:24
3 min

Introducing Celeste Gonzalez and the Rise of SXO

Jordan welcomes Celeste Gonzalez, SEO Testing Director at RicketyRoo and founder of the LA SEO Meetup Group. They discuss the evolution of SEO and introduce Search Experience Optimization (SXO) as a framework that unifies SEO and UX principles.

5:20
5 min

Why Social Data Is the New SEO Goldmine

TikTok makes sense for a restaurant or catering business because it is just a visual platform. People want to go and see beautiful things. They want to see beautiful food. They want to see a beautiful atmosphere.

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10:00
5 min

From Reviews to Real Insights: The Power of Sentiment Analysis

The real value of it for me was in getting to use it for competitor reviews. And, you know, at that point, you can use the competitor data to your advantage because whatever their weaknesses might be, they could be your client's strengths.

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15:00
5 min

Building Your Own Tools: Vibe Coding for SEOs

I mean, it was really not that crazy as things have gotten better. You know, I used cursor before now I use cloud code even easier and you know, that's all recent stuff.

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High-Impact Quotes
or catering business. Absolutely, TikTok makes sense for that because it is just a visual platform. People want to go and see beautiful things. They want to see beautiful food. They want to see a beautiful atmosphere.
Celeste Gonzalez9:07
Viral: 85.0
The real value of it for me was in getting to use it for competitor reviews. And, you know, at that point, you can use the competitor data to your advantage because whatever their weaknesses might be, they could be your client's strengths.
Celeste Gonzalez16:25
Viral: 82.0
think local in -person groups are only going to become bigger. And you kind of see it already just outside of SEO, outside of marketing. Lots of Gen Zers are turning to hobbies that are more in person and not so much on the phone.
Celeste Gonzalez30:11
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Jordan Cooney

Guest

Celeste Gonzalez
Topics Discussed
search experience optimization95%local seo90%social media insights88%ai search85%user behavior tracking82%seo community building80%data visualization for seo75%client communication in seo70%
People & Brands

Celeste Gonzalez

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Jordan Cooney

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Google Business Profile

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TikTok

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7xPositive

LA SEO Meetup Group

organization

6xPositive

RicketyRoo

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6xNeutral

Claude Code

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5xPositive

Ask Maps

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Previsible

organization

4xPositive

Colab Notebooks

product

3xPositive

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