Episode 103 - Toronto Under Construction with Cara Hirsch of Hirsch + Associates, Elliott Taube of Pivot Real Estate Group, and Sean Zahedi of SCOP Inc.

Toronto Under Construction1h 26mApril 22, 2026

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In Episode 103 of 'Toronto Under Construction,' host Ben Myers convenes a high-level broker panel featuring Sean Zahedi of SCOP Inc., Elliot Tobe of Pivot Real Estate Group, and Kara Hirsch of Hirsch + Associates to dissect the current state of Toronto’s real estate market. The conversation centers on the fallout from the post-pandemic market bubble, with guests agreeing that the industry shifted from selling housing to selling pricing momentum, driven by FOMO and speculative investment. They analyze the recent HST removal on new homes and 50% reduction in development charges, acknowledging the psychological boost but questioning their real market impact—especially for luxury high-rises. A major theme is the looming supply crisis, with projections of only 10,000 units annually by 2028, despite a record 24,000–26,000 units expected in 2024. The panel also confronts the erosion of trust in real estate, the rise of negative media narratives, and the growing role of rental conversions as a default strategy for developers. They express frustration over media bias, the lack of recognition for successful sales, and the disproportionate scrutiny of individual investors versus institutional players. The episode concludes with candid reflections on commission models, the decline of in-house sales teams, and the need for a fundamental reset in how the industry communicates value and builds trust. Key takeaways include: 1) The market is in a painful but necessary reset, with pricing now aligned to resale values; 2) The HST removal is a psychological win but not a game-changer for high-end projects; 3) Rental conversions are becoming a default strategy, especially for developers with deep pockets; 4) Media and social media have fueled a toxic narrative that harms confidence; 5) Developers and brokers must now do more heavy lifting in marketing and buyer nurturing, especially in the end-user space; 6) The industry must move beyond the 'pro-developer vs anti-developer' binary and focus on supply as a public good; 7) AI and data are now essential tools for sales and marketing, but human connection remains critical; 8) The future of Toronto’s housing market depends on rebuilding trust, improving transparency, and aligning incentives across the ecosystem.

Key Takeaways
1

Pricing in Toronto’s new condo market has finally reset to align with resale values, ending years of unsustainable premiums.

2

The HST removal is a positive signal but unlikely to ignite a market rebound—its real impact is psychological and limited to entry-level buyers.

3

Rental conversions are becoming a default business model for many high-rise developers due to weak pre-construction demand.

4

Media and social media have created a negative feedback loop, amplifying defaults and failures while ignoring successful sales and market resilience.

5

The industry must abandon the 'pro-developer vs anti-developer' narrative and recognize that building more housing benefits everyone, especially future generations.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Social Media Divide: Pro-Developer vs Anti-Developer

You just put people into buckets, right? If it's left or right, in our space, it's pro-developer or anti-developer, right? Pro-capitalist, anti-capitalist. And it's funny, these are the very people hurting the most if we don't build enough.

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10:00
10 min

The HST Removal: A Psychological Win, Not a Market Fix

I think the psychological effect of the government's coming in, they're going to bail some developers, they're going to help basically purchasers. I think that's a good thing. It's a right basically step forward.

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20:00
20 min

The Great Reset: From Speculation to Fundamentals

We need to kind of get back to or kind of back in a supply and demand where we obviously have a lot of supply and not that demand. It's going to take a little bit.

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40:00
20 min

The Rental Default: A New Business Model for Developers

I see more and more developers that used to do a lot of condos that do mix of both. So they don't find a reason to have in-house sales anymore.

Highlight
1:00:00
20 min

The Media Crisis: Why Success Stories Go Unreported

The panel expresses frustration that media outlets focus exclusively on failures and defaults while ignoring successful sales and market resilience. Kara Hirsch reveals that her team closed $40M in Q2, but no media outlet covered it. They argue that negative narratives are fueled by social media algorithms and a few loud voices, not the broader reality.

High-Impact Quotes
I think we needed a reset at all levels. From the financial side of the business, from the developer side. And same thing applies to sales and marketing.
Sean Zahedi68:27
Viral: 88.0
You just put people into buckets, right? If it's left or right, in our space, it's pro-developer or anti-developer, right? Pro-capitalist, anti-capitalist. And it's funny, these are the very people hurting the most if we don't build enough.
Ben Myers0:00
Viral: 85.0
The amount of work that we do in the background that no one knows about, especially public and even friends on the co-op side, it's crazy.
Sean Zahedi62:53
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Ben Myers

Guests

Sean ZahediElliot TobeKara Hirsch
Topics Discussed
Media Bias and Negative Narratives92%Market Reset and Fundamentals90%Rental Conversions as Default Strategy88%HST Removal on New Homes85%Commission Models and Broker Role83%Closing Risk and Default Rates80%Investor Behavior and Market Psychology78%Development Charges Reduction75%
People & Brands

Toronto

place

35xNeutral

Sean Zahedi

person

25xPositive

Kara Hirsch

person

24xPositive

Elliot Tobe

person

22xPositive

HST

other

15xPositive

Ben Myers

person

12xNeutral

GTA

place

12xNeutral

Pivot Real Estate Group

organization

10xPositive

SCOP Inc.

organization

9xPositive

Hirsch + Associates

organization

8xPositive

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