Indie Tribe, Colbert's LotR Movie, Alabama's Faith & SNL's Christian Rap Connection | Ep. 1295

The RELEVANT Podcast58mMarch 31, 2026

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In episode 1295 of The RELEVANT Podcast, hosts Cameron Strang, Jesse Gary, Derek Miner, and Emily Brown dive into a dynamic mix of pop culture, faith, and podcasting trends. The episode opens with a candid discussion about the current state of the podcasting industry, highlighting how Netflix’s high-profile video podcast investments are underperforming despite massive budgets, while independent shows like theirs continue to thrive. The hosts reflect on the cultural shift from audio-only to video podcasting, the challenges of production, and the importance of audience connection. They explore a surprising real-life story of a coach threatening to shoot photos of two high school football players who dreamed of future success, drawing parallels to the power of adversity and resilience. The conversation then turns to faith and sports, spotlighting University of Alabama’s team revival through weekly Bible studies, and celebrates Stephen Colbert’s surprising pivot from The Late Show to co-writing a new Lord of the Rings movie with Peter Jackson. The episode also uncovers an unexpected connection between SNL’s Cam Patterson and Christian rapper Caleb Gordon, both former high school classmates. The segment concludes with lighthearted 'Slices' featuring quirky research on googly eyes deterring seagulls and a man who’s eaten 36,000 Big Macs. Finally, Indie Tribe joins the show to discuss their new album, 'Who Do You Say I Am,' emphasizing their mission to be 'disruptive' in both the world and the church by embracing people often deemed 'too far gone.'

Key Takeaways
1

Independent podcasting is surviving the market crash by prioritizing audience connection over vanity metrics.

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Netflix’s video podcast strategy is failing due to poor audience retention and mismatched content consumption habits.

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Faith-driven teams like Alabama’s are seeing real cultural impact through consistent, organic spiritual practices.

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Stephen Colbert’s new Lord of the Rings movie will explore underdeveloped chapters from The Fellowship of the Ring.

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Unexpected connections—like SNL and Christian rap—highlight how shared roots can shape diverse careers.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Podcasting Industry at a Crossroads

The economy of podcasting is not how it looks. You have one sponsor and nine people on staff. And the economics aren't adding up for a lot of podcasters right now.

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10:00
10 min

Faith, Sports, and Unexpected Connections

That's a very hostile coach. What sport was that? They were both on the football team and did not play. So yeah, I saw the comments after we posted this that people were like, oh, that just must be like you know, probably a white coach being racist and stuff.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Stephen Colbert’s Lord of the Rings Pivot

We really want another Lord of the Rings movie. Aren't we good? Are we good at this stage? I'm good, but you know. Well, maybe he'll reinvigorate the franchise.

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30:00
10 min

SNL, Christian Rap, and High School Roots

I said, I think we're going to be something in life, though, bro. So what I think you should do is you should get pictures of us and you should put it in the gym and let people know that we went to school.

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40:00
10 min

Indie Tribe’s New Album and the Power of Disruption

The only thing that's going to get you sent to hell is not belonging to Jesus. That's it.

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High-Impact Quotes
The only thing that's going to get you sent to hell is not belonging to Jesus. That's it.
John Keith55:55
Viral: 92.0
The economy of podcasting is not how it looks. You have one sponsor and nine people on staff. And the economics aren't adding up for a lot of podcasters right now.
Cameron Strang4:33
Viral: 85.0
I said, I think we're going to be something in life, though, bro. So what I think you should do is you should get pictures of us and you should put it in the gym and let people know that we went to school.
Cam Patterson36:58
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Cameron StrangJesse GaryDerek MinerEmily Brown

Guests

Indie TribeCam PattersonCaleb Gordon
Topics Discussed
podcasting industry trends90%faith and sports88%unexpected celebrity connections85%lord of the rings franchise82%independent music and artistry80%cultural disruption in faith78%pop culture research and humor75%podcast production and video content70%
People & Brands

Cameron Strang

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Emily Brown

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14xPositive

Jesse Gary

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12xPositive

Indie Tribe

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12xPositive

Lord of the Rings

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10xPositive

Derek Miner

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10xPositive

Netflix

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9xNegative

Stephen Colbert

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8xPositive

University of Alabama

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6xPositive

Peter Jackson

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6xPositive

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