Episode 1297: Aodhan King & Benjamin William Hastings Made a Worship Album in 10 Days, Plus Lecrae and M.I.A.

The RELEVANT Podcast58mApril 16, 2026

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In episode 1297 of The RELEVANT Podcast, host Cameron Strang and co-hosts Jessica, Ellie Brown, and Emily Brown dive into a lively mix of pop culture, faith, and humor. The episode opens with banter about niche hobbies like competitive chess and bowling, leading into a discussion of mockumentary-style TV shows like *Jury Duty* and *Any Given Saturday Afternoon*, with reflections on authenticity and moral stakes. The hosts then shift to sports, sharing personal anecdotes from a Magic vs. Pistons game, including a humorous exchange about Derek’s Pistons jersey and a gift of vintage Magic shorts sent to him. The music segment highlights Lecrae’s historic Tiny Desk debut as the first Christian rapper to perform a full set, sparking a satirical debate about NPR’s past exclusion of Christian artists. M.I.A.’s upcoming Christian album, MI7, is also discussed, with a mix of curiosity and caution due to her past spiritual journey and controversial merchandise. The episode’s centerpiece is a deep dive into the new worship album by Benjamin William Hastings and Aodhan King, recorded in just 10 days with no pre-planned songs—emphasizing faith, urgency, and creative surrender. The hosts playfully explore the album’s spiritual intensity, referencing the Ark of the Covenant’s biblical power to melt faces, blending humor with reverence. Later, the show features 'Slices' on NASA’s Artemis mission, where an Outlook crash becomes the punchline, and a chimp civil war in Uganda, presented with tongue-in-cheek commentary. The episode concludes with the popular 'One Has To Go' segment, where the team debates the elimination of cultural touchstones from Christian music, reality TV, and biblical figures, ending with a lighthearted, faith-infused tone.

Key Takeaways
1

Creative breakthroughs often come from tight deadlines and surrendering control—Hastings and King made an album in 10 days with no pre-planned songs.

2

Faith and art intersect in unexpected ways: Lecrae’s Tiny Desk debut marks a historic moment for Christian hip-hop, while M.I.A.’s new album reflects a deep spiritual journey.

3

Humor and faith can coexist—using satire to discuss serious topics like the Ark of the Covenant or biblical figures keeps the conversation accessible and engaging.

4

The most powerful stories often come from simple, human moments—like two men meeting over borrowed pants, which led to a worship album.

5

Technology fails even in space—NASA’s Artemis mission had a hilarious Outlook crash, reminding us that even astronauts are human.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Hobbies, Humor, and the Art of the Mockumentary

The episode opens with a playful discussion of niche hobbies like competitive chess and bowling, leading into a deep dive on mockumentary-style TV shows like *Jury Duty* and *Any Given Saturday Afternoon*. The hosts compare the authenticity and moral stakes of these shows, praising the original *Jury Duty* for its aspirational storytelling and critique of the newer season for lacking believability.

10:00
10 min

Magic vs. Pistons: Fan Loyalty and Funny Gifts

The hosts share personal stories from a Magic vs. Pistons game, including Derek’s controversial Pistons jersey and the team’s spirited fan culture. Cameron humorously reveals he sent Derek vintage Magic shorts with a fake label, sparking laughter and a lighthearted rivalry.

20:00
20 min

Lecrae’s Tiny Desk Debut and the Ark of the Covenant

If we're putting a spotlight on faith-based hip hop, we had to start with Lecrae.

Highlight
40:00
20 min

The 10-Day Worship Album: Faith, Urgency, and Face Melting

For me, that helped me so much because I'm such a chronic overthinker and perfectionist.

Highlight
1:00:00
39 min

Slices: Space, Apes, and Outlook Crashes

The 'Slices' segment covers the Artemis mission, where astronauts return safely after a historic deep-space journey. The hosts highlight the irony of a Microsoft Outlook crash in space, poking fun at corporate culture even in the cosmos. They then discuss a chimp civil war in Uganda, comparing it to reality TV drama with a humorous take on TLC and Bravo-style storytelling.

High-Impact Quotes
If we're putting a spotlight on faith-based hip hop, we had to start with Lecrae.
Bobby Carter19:10
Viral: 85.0
The glory of God just came in the studio like as if they opened the Ark of the Covenant.
Cameron Strang34:48
Viral: 82.0
For me, that helped me so much because I'm such a chronic overthinker and perfectionist.
Aodhan King33:38
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Hosts

Cameron StrangJessicaEllie BrownEmily Brown

Guests

Benjamin William HastingsAodhan King
Topics Discussed
Christian Music and Worship95%Faith and Art90%Pop Culture and Humor88%Creative Process and Deadlines85%Reality TV and Human Drama75%Space Exploration and Technology70%Biblical Figures and Stories65%Niche Hobbies and Competitions60%
People & Brands

Benjamin William Hastings

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18xPositive

Aodhan King

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Cameron Strang

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Lecrae

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14xPositive

Emily Brown

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12xNeutral

M.I.A.

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10xNeutral

Ark of the Covenant

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10xPositive

Jessica

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NPR

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8xNegative

Tiny Desk

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7xPositive

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