AI is everywhere. The agentic organization isn’t—yet

The McKinsey Podcast25mApril 2, 2026

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In this episode of The McKinsey Podcast, senior partner Alexis Krivkovic discusses the transformative potential of agentic AI and the urgent need for organizations to evolve into 'agentic organizations'—structures capable of harnessing AI not just as a tool, but as a collaborative workforce. Despite 80% of companies investing in AI with high expectations, over 80% report no measurable bottom-line impact, highlighting a critical gap between ambition and execution. Krivkovic outlines five pillars of the agentic organization, emphasizing reimagined business models, restructured teams, and new leadership mindsets. She illustrates how AI can enable hyper-personalization at scale, disrupt traditional moats in industries like finance, and fundamentally reshape workflows—from end-to-end process redesign to the emergence of 'pods' of fluid talent. A central theme is the shift from 'human in the loop' to 'human above the loop,' where AI handles core tasks and humans provide strategic judgment. The episode also addresses the profound challenges of skill development, organizational culture, and change management in an era of perpetual transformation. Leaders are urged to model AI adoption themselves, foster curiosity, and embrace iterative experimentation over irreversible decisions.

Key Takeaways
1

Most roles will be reshaped, not eliminated, by agentic AI—leaders must redefine job descriptions within 2–3 years.

2

The future lies in 'human above the loop' models where AI handles core workflows and humans provide strategic oversight and judgment.

3

Reimagining entire workflows end-to-end—rather than point solutions—unlocks the greatest value from agentic AI.

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Organizations must develop continuous learning cultures and enable fluid talent flows to stay competitive.

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Leaders must lead by example, demonstrating how they’re transforming their own time and decision-making with AI.

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Chapters
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2 min

The AI Transformation Paradox

80% of companies see massive transformation coming from AI and have invested with that mindset, and yet more than 80% of companies would say they're not yet seeing the impact to the bottom line from those investments.

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2:00
3 min

Redefining the Business Model with Agentic AI

Agentic AI enables near-zero marginal cost, hyper-personalization at scale, and new competitive dynamics—especially in content distribution and financial services.

5:00
5 min

The Human Above the Loop: New Leadership Paradigm

The role of the humans is the judgment overlay on top... a lot of the work underneath can be done end-to-end by agentic AI.

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10:00
5 min

Reimagining Teams and Org Structures

Traditional hierarchies may flatten as AI accelerates decision-making; new models like fluid 'pods' of talent could emerge, though implementation remains challenging.

15:00
5 min

Building Skills and Culture for Continuous Change

Change management is no longer going to be a episodic thing. It's going to be a perpetual state.

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High-Impact Quotes
The role of the humans is the judgment overlay on top... a lot of the work underneath can be done end-to-end by agentic AI.
Alexis Krivkovic13:46
Viral: 90.0
You won't be replaced by AI, but you may be replaced by someone who embraces AI before you do.
Professor (quoted)11:23
Viral: 88.0
80% of companies see massive transformation coming from AI and have invested with that mindset, and yet more than 80% of companies would say they're not yet seeing the impact to the bottom line from those investments.
Alexis Krivkovic1:14
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Lucia RaheliRoberta Fissaro

Guest

Alexis Krivkovic
Topics Discussed
Agentic AI Transformation95%Human-AI Collaboration92%Future of Work and Job Redesign90%Leadership in the Age of AI88%Workflow Reimagining87%Organizational Restructuring85%Talent Development and Learning Culture83%Change Management and Organizational Culture80%
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