789 The 25 Greatest Books of All Time (with Mike Palindrome) | My Last Book with Cass Sunstein

The History of Literature1h 16mApril 2, 2026

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In this episode of The History of Literature, host Jack Wilson and guest Mike Palindrome dissect a widely circulated 'top 25 greatest books of all time' list, questioning its methodology, biases, and omissions. They critique the list's overreliance on reader surveys, which favors assigned high school and college reading like *The Catcher in the Rye* and *To Kill a Mockingbird*, while excluding major works of poetry, nonfiction, drama, and non-Western literature. The hosts highlight glaring absences such as Virginia Woolf, Henry James, Shakespeare, Dante, and the Bible’s lack of recognition beyond a single entry. They also debate the placement of *The Sound and the Fury* ahead of *War and Peace*, and express skepticism about *1984* and *The Trial* being ranked so highly. After a humorous exchange where Mike fails to guess the top two books—Ulysses and Proust—Jack reveals the true top two, sparking a spirited discussion on literary greatness. The episode culminates in Jack sharing a personal list of 25 books he believes better represents literary excellence, emphasizing diversity, depth, and global scope. The episode closes with a special segment featuring Cass Sunstein, who chooses A.S. Byatt’s *Possession* as his last book, praising its emotional depth and narrative richness, and calling for its revival in the literary canon.

Key Takeaways
1

Lists of 'greatest books' are inherently subjective and often reflect cultural biases, especially toward Anglophone, 19th-century, and assigned reading.

2

Popular books like *The Catcher in the Rye* and *To Kill a Mockingbird* may rank high due to widespread exposure, not necessarily literary supremacy.

3

Major absences like Virginia Woolf, Henry James, Shakespeare, and nonfiction works reveal the limitations of narrow, novel-centric lists.

4

Ulysses and Proust are widely regarded as the two greatest works of literature, with Proust offering greater accessibility despite his length.

5

A truly great list should include diverse genres, global voices, and works that challenge readers rather than comfort them.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introducing the 25 Greatest Books List

Jack Wilson introduces the episode's premise: analyzing a widely circulated 'top 25 greatest books of all time' list. He explains his motivation for creating the episode—celebrating a milestone year (2025) and avoiding personal bias by using an aggregated list. He acknowledges the list's subjectivity and sets the stage for a critical discussion with guest Mike Palindrome.

2:20
4 min

The Literary Controversy: Eliot vs. Vidal

He had a mind so fine that no idea could violate it. In England, ideas run wild and pasture on the emotions.

Highlight
5:50
7 min

The Flaws of the Top 25 List

This list can be torn up. This is the equivalent of using the Stradivarius to hammer nails.

Highlight
12:30
10 min

Guessing the Top Two: Ulysses and Proust

You guessed Tom Sawyer, which is another book that maybe is more known than respected.

Highlight
22:30
19 min

Evaluating the Top 25: Strengths and Weaknesses

The hosts analyze the list in groups of five, discussing individual books. They praise the inclusion of foreign works like *The Stranger* and *Madame Bovary*, but question the placement of *The Sound and the Fury* above *War and Peace*. They express concern over *1984* and *The Trial* being ranked so highly, arguing they may be more culturally iconic than artistically supreme.

High-Impact Quotes
It has all the world in it, heightened the best romance you could imagine.
Cass Sunstein71:04
Viral: 95.0
This list can be torn up. This is the equivalent of using the Stradivarius to hammer nails.
Mike Palindrome51:35
Viral: 90.0
He had a mind so fine that no idea could violate it. In England, ideas run wild and pasture on the emotions.
T.S. Eliot8:45
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Jack Wilson

Guests

Mike PalindromeCass Sunstein
Topics Discussed
literary lists and subjectivity95%the canon of great books90%cultural bias in literature88%the role of education in reading85%accessibility and difficulty in literature82%the influence of personal taste78%the legacy of T.S. Eliot and Henry James75%the future of literary rankings70%
People & Brands

Mike Palindrome

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20xPositive

Jack Wilson

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15xPositive

Ulysses

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14xPositive

T.S. Eliot

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12xPositive

The Great Gatsby

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10xPositive

Henry James

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10xPositive

The Catcher in the Rye

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10xMixed

Cass Sunstein

person

8xPositive

To Kill a Mockingbird

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8xMixed

In Search of Lost Time

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8xPositive

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