Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

The Excerpt15mApril 3, 2026

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In this episode of USA Today's The Excerpt, reporter Lauren Villagran explores the growing bipartisan opposition to President Donald Trump's plan to build a border wall through the Big Bend region of Texas—a remote, ecologically rich, and tourism-dependent area along the U.S.-Mexico border. Despite Trump’s long-standing promise to construct a border wall and his 2025 administration’s renewed push with over $45 billion in funding, locals—including three-time Trump voters—express outrage at the prospect of a 30-foot steel barrier cutting through pristine desert landscapes and national parks. Residents, from restaurant owners to astrophotographers and river outfitters, argue that the region’s natural geography already serves as a formidable barrier, and that the wall would destroy fragile ecosystems, disrupt wildlife migration, and ruin the area’s world-class night skies and river access. The episode reveals a deep irony: even among Trump supporters, NIMBYism has taken hold, with many advocating for less invasive border security measures like drones, infrared lighting, and increased manpower instead of massive physical barriers. The emotional core of the story centers on Denise Carrera, a native of Presidio who returned to the area to reconnect with the dark night skies of her youth—now threatened by construction lights and infrastructure. The episode underscores a broader tension between national border policy and local environmental and cultural preservation.

Key Takeaways
1

Even staunch Trump supporters in rural Texas oppose the border wall in Big Bend due to environmental, cultural, and economic concerns.

2

The Big Bend region’s natural terrain—mountains, canyons, and extreme desert—already acts as a strong deterrent to illegal crossings, making a steel wall redundant.

3

Local opposition is bipartisan and driven by fears of ecological damage, loss of tourism, and the destruction of dark night skies essential for astrophotography.

4

Residents advocate for smarter, less invasive border security technologies like drones and infrared sensors instead of physical barriers.

5

Eminent domain and federal land acquisition processes are fueling anxiety among private landowners who fear forced displacement and loss of property rights.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Wall That Divides Even Trump Voters

I haven't found anybody yet that wants a wall down here.

Highlight
2:00
3 min

Big Bend’s Natural Barriers and Tourism Economy

The natural geography of Big Bend—jagged canyons, the Rio Grande, and vast deserts—makes it a formidable natural barrier. The region’s economy relies heavily on tourism, including river trips, camping, and astrophotography, all threatened by wall construction.

5:00
4 min

The Rise of Bipartisan Anti-Wall Activism

Local residents, including Republicans and Democrats, have united in opposition to the wall after federal contractors began arriving and eminent domain notices were issued. The Big Bend Sentinel’s reporting helped galvanize public awareness.

9:00
4 min

The Reality of the 'Smart Wall' and Border Patrol's Stance

While the federal government promotes the 'smart wall' concept—using drones, sensors, and lighting—Border Patrol officials on the ground say a 30-foot steel barrier is unnecessary due to the region’s natural defenses and low crossing rates.

13:00
2 min

The Human Cost: Losing the Night Sky and the Soul of Big Bend

She burst into tears thinking about how she might lose the ability to see the stars at night should the border wall and the construction begin there.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
She burst into tears thinking about how she might lose the ability to see the stars at night should the border wall and the construction begin there.
Lauren Villagran14:35
Viral: 92.0
You can't find them at night. There's almost no light.
Denise Carrera14:21
Viral: 88.0
I haven't found anybody yet that wants a wall down here.
Bill Ivey0:56
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Dana Taylor

Guest

Lauren Villagran
Topics Discussed
Border Wall Construction in Big Bend Texas95%Bipartisan Opposition to Federal Infrastructure Projects90%Environmental Impact of Border Security Infrastructure88%Tourism and Economic Dependence on Natural Landscapes87%Eminent Domain and Landowner Rights85%Dark Sky Preservation and Astrotourism83%Smart Border Technology vs. Physical Barriers80%Political Identity and Local Values75%
People & Brands

Lauren Villagran

person

15xPositive

Donald Trump

person

12xNeutral

Rio Grande

other

8xPositive

U.S. Customs and Border Protection

organization

7xNeutral

Bill Ivey

person

6xPositive

Big Bend National Park

place

6xPositive

Presidio

place

6xPositive

Denise Carrera

person

5xPositive

Anna Claire Beasley

person

4xPositive

El Paso

place

4xNeutral

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