The Men Around You Shape Who You Become (Whether You're Intentional About It or Not) featuring Marc Hildebrand
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The men around you don't just influence your life—they shape who you become, whether you realize it or not. In this powerful episode of *The Dad Edge Podcast*, host Larry Hagner and coach Marc Hildebrand unpack the devastating cost of trying to 'figure it out alone' in marriage, fatherhood, and business. Drawing from a raw, transformative story of member Yadin Smith, they reveal how years of stress, hope-based parenting, and reactive behavior were replaced by a new operating system: intentional skill-building, generative questioning, and psychological safety. The breakthrough? Realizing that 'hope is not a strategy'—only deliberate action, mentorship, and brotherhood create lasting change. The episode delivers a hard truth: you can't climb a 12-foot ladder with only two rungs. You need a tribe to pull you up. The message is clear: if you're serious about becoming the father, husband, and leader you were meant to be, stop winging it. Surround yourself with men who’ve already made the journey. The cost of staying in isolation? Regret. The reward of joining a brotherhood? A life of purpose, connection, and impact. The episode’s core insight isn’t just about skills—it’s about identity. When you consistently practice tools like 'walking the cube' (facts, story, emotions, actions), you don’t just change behavior—you upgrade your operating system. This isn’t extra work; it’s smarter work. And the most powerful tool of all?
Hope is not a strategy—only deliberate planning and skill-building create lasting change in relationships and business.
Your environment shapes your identity: surround yourself with men who embody the values and behaviors you want to adopt.
The 'operating system' upgrade—practicing generative questions and emotional awareness—transforms how you respond in high-stress moments.
You cannot grow in isolation: a brotherhood that offers psychological safety is essential for lasting transformation.
The most powerful mentorship moment is when someone calls you forward—not to shame you, but to help you see your potential.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Cost of Figuring It Out Alone
The episode opens with a powerful statement: society sets men up for failure in marriage and parenting by telling them to 'figure it out as they go.' The hosts argue that this approach leads to stress, frustration, and emotional disconnection, especially for business owners who are already stretched thin.
Yadin’s Story: From Hope to Strategy
“Before I joined the boardroom, life was pretty stereotypical. I was working full-time in real estate, trying to build a business, trying to connect with my kids, connect with my wife. But always, always stressed out and frustrated because the only thing I really had was the sales term hopium. I was just hoping that tomorrow would be better.”
Hope Is Not a Strategy
“Hope is not a strategy. Hope is hoping for a good outcome. Your strategy is your plan. What's your plan?”
The Power of Intentional Surrounding
The hosts reveal how early in their careers they unconsciously modeled the behaviors of those around them—often the wrong ones. The turning point came when they realized they could choose their tribe. The message: your environment is your curriculum.
The Operating System Upgrade
“Now I can be in a situation with my children, with my wife and process it almost in real time. A lot of times I can process in real time to have an appropriate response instead of just reacting out of frustration.”
“alone. You can't do this alone. Trying to do this work alone is like trying to climb a 12 foot ladder where there's only two rungs, one at the bottom and one at the top.”
“Hope is not a strategy. Hope is hoping for a good outcome. Your strategy is your plan. What's your plan?”
“You don’t know what gold is on the other side of the door unless you decide to walk in.”
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Larry Hagner
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Marc Hildebrand
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Yadin Smith
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The Dad Edge
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The Boardroom
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Good Dad Project
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F1
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Wayne Dyer
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