Bryce Tingle - How Are Regulations Damaging Markets?
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In this episode of The Curious Task, host Alex Aragona speaks with Bryce Tingle, N. Murray Edwards Chair in Business Law at the University of Calgary, about the unintended consequences of corporate governance regulations. Tingle argues that over the past 40 years, corporate law has become overly focused on minimizing agency costs—specifically, the separation between shareholders and management—rather than on the central role of markets in driving innovation, efficiency, and social cohesion. He traces this shift to the influential 1976 Jensen and Meckling paper, which framed corporations as principal-agent relationships and led to decades of regulatory interventions, including the near-universal adoption of independent boards and strict governance rules. These changes, Tingle contends, have damaged the market for corporate governance by discouraging companies from going public, especially in Canada, where the number of public firms has nearly halved in two decades. This decline has serious economic consequences, including a scaling crisis that prevents Canadian startups from growing into major industries. Tingle also highlights the intrinsic moral and social value of markets—fostering trust, cooperation, and tolerance—which are undermined when regulation replaces market-driven experimentation and bargaining. The episode concludes with a call to return markets to the center of corporate law, emphasizing that regulation must serve market health, not replace it.
Corporate governance regulation over the past 40 years has prioritized minimizing agency costs over market performance, leading to a decline in public market participation.
The near-universal adoption of independent boards and rigid governance rules has made public markets less attractive to startups, especially in Canada.
Markets are not just efficient allocators of resources—they are intrinsically valuable for fostering trust, cooperation, and social capital.
The decline in public listings is a sign of a failing market mechanism, with serious implications for innovation, scaling, and national productivity.
Regulation should not replace market processes; instead, it should support and enable market-driven bargaining and experimentation.
Introducing the Corporation: A Legal Fiction with Profound Impact
Alex Aragona introduces Bryce Tingle and sets the stage by defining the corporation as a legal fiction that enables large-scale capital pooling, limited liability, and perpetual existence—key innovations that enabled modern capitalism. The discussion traces the historical evolution from partnerships to corporations, highlighting the role of entities like the Hudson Bay Company.
Beyond Government: The Hidden Regulators of Corporate Behavior
Tingle explains that corporate regulation extends far beyond government legislation. He identifies powerful non-governmental actors—such as institutional shareholders, stock exchanges, proxy advisors, and advocacy groups—that collectively shape corporate governance. These entities, especially proxy advisors, now function as de facto regulators of public companies.
The Agency Cost Theory Trap: How One Model Distorted Corporate Law
“We've been pursuing regulation entirely focused on this narrow question of how do we make the managers of the company better stewards of their principals, the shareholders? And we haven't spent really any time asking, is this good for the business?”
The Market as a Moral Institution: Beyond Wealth Creation
“Markets really do produce these kinds of moral outcomes in people. And obviously very valuable outcomes for our society.”
The Collapse of Public Markets: A Crisis of Participation
“The biggest problem is new companies aren't going on. They don't want to. They're staying private. They're selling themselves to big companies.”
“Markets really do produce these kinds of moral outcomes in people. And obviously very valuable outcomes for our society.”
“Markets are not just efficient allocators of resources—they are intrinsically valuable for fostering trust, cooperation, and social capital.”
“We've been pursuing regulation entirely focused on this narrow question of how do we make the managers of the company better stewards of their principals, the shareholders? And we haven't spent really any time asking, is this good for the business?”
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