Stocks Took the Stairs Down and the Elevator Up
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In this episode of 'The Compound and Friends,' host Josh Brown and guest Steve Sosnick, Chief Strategist at Interactive Brokers, dissect the market's surprisingly resilient reaction to escalating geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, particularly the Strait of Hormuz crisis. Despite a 10% drop in oil prices and widespread fear of a global supply shock, the S&P 500 only fell 1%—a phenomenon Sosnick describes as the market 'taking the stairs down and the elevator up.' He attributes this calm to a post-COVID investor psychology where every dip is seen as a buying opportunity, fueled by FOMO and a deep-seated belief in rapid market recovery. The episode also explores the dramatic divergence between software stocks—plunging due to AI disruption fears—and semiconductor and hardware names, which are surging as the 'picks and shovels' of the AI boom. Sosnick warns of a looming 'market clearing event' as massive private valuations (like OpenAI’s $830B) and upcoming IPOs (SpaceX, Anthropic) could overwhelm market liquidity. Meanwhile, earnings estimates remain strong despite war-related headwinds, and international markets—especially emerging markets with heavy semiconductor exposure—are gaining momentum due to structural reforms and value rotation. The hosts conclude that while macro anxiety persists, the market’s underlying strength lies in improving fundamentals and a powerful narrative of resilience. Key takeaways include: 1) The market’s reaction to black swan events is now shaped more by investor psychology than fundamentals; 2) AI is not destroying software—it’s reshaping it, with hardware and infrastructure leading the charge; 3) The era of 'buying the dip' is still alive, but only for names with strong earnings and secular tailwinds; 4) International markets are no longer just energy proxies—they’re tech-driven value plays; 5) The next major market test will be whether the system can absorb $2 trillion in new IPOs without a liquidity crisis. Overall, the episode paints a picture of a market that’s both fragile and remarkably resilient, driven more by narrative than data.
The market's calm during geopolitical shocks reflects a post-COVID psychology where every dip is a buying opportunity.
AI disruption is not killing software—it’s creating a massive infrastructure boom in semiconductors and hardware.
The S&P 500’s resilience despite war fears is due to improving earnings and strong investor FOMO, not lack of risk awareness.
Emerging markets are no longer just commodity plays—they’re tech-driven, with 32% of EM exposure in semiconductors.
The next market stress test will be whether the system can absorb massive private valuations and IPOs without a liquidity crunch.
Opening Banter and the New Blood Sport
The hosts kick off with lighthearted banter about movie reboots and AI-generated content, setting a playful tone before introducing Steve Sosnick. Sam Rowe jokes about the lack of excitement in new entertainment, while Steve shares his deep industry roots at Interactive Brokers.
The Market's Calm in the Face of Crisis
“It's like you're falling down an escalator that's going up. You're in the same place, but you're getting banged up a whole bunch of times because the stairs are going up.”
The Software vs. Hardware Divide
“The software sector is in the toilet. But the hardware? It's going absolutely vertical.”
The AI Boom and the IPO Tsunami
“If OpenAI were public today, the stock would be going down every day. I agree. And I think this is one of the, to me, an existential risk that I think we need to focus on.”
International Markets Reborn
The episode shifts to global investing, highlighting how emerging markets have transformed from energy proxies to tech powerhouses. With 32% of EM exposure in semiconductors and reforms in Korea, Japan, and China boosting shareholder value, international stocks are gaining momentum.
“If OpenAI were public today, the stock would be going down every day. I agree. And I think this is one of the, to me, an existential risk that I think we need to focus on.”
“It's like you're falling down an escalator that's going up. You're in the same place, but you're getting banged up a whole bunch of times because the stairs are going up.”
“The software sector is in the toilet. But the hardware? It's going absolutely vertical.”
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Sam Rowe
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Josh Brown
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Michael Batnick
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Thomas Pederfield
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