Bill Kristol: Trump's Revenge Tour Is Backfiring

The Bulwark Podcast56mMay 4, 2026

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In this episode of The Bulwark Podcast, host Tim Miller and editor-at-large Bill Kristol dissect the escalating crisis in U.S.-Iran relations under President Trump, arguing that his so-called 'Revenge Tour' is backfiring politically and strategically. The episode opens with a tense update on missile exchanges in the Strait of Hormuz, Trump’s controversial social media post about Iran, and his deployment of 15,000 troops under the guise of 'Project Freedom'—a move Kristol calls a phony military escalation. They critique Trump’s erratic foreign policy, including the unilateral withdrawal of 5,000 troops from Germany, which they see as a childish, symbolic punishment that undermines NATO and U.S. strategic presence. The hosts also condemn the DOJ’s indictment of Jim Comey over 'seashell art'—a farcical prosecution that exemplifies the administration’s revenge-driven justice system. Poll numbers are dire: Trump’s approval rating has plummeted to 37%, with disapproval exceeding 50% on inflation, cost of living, and the Iran conflict. Kristol argues this reflects a broader erosion of public trust, as Trump’s policies—especially on tariffs, gas prices, and defense spending—have hurt ordinary Americans without offering coherent solutions. The episode closes with a scathing critique of Trump’s proposed 'triumphal arch' and garden of heroes, which Kristol describes as Stalinist, grotesque, and a symbol of narcissistic authoritarianism. The hosts conclude that Trump’s self-destructive policies are uniting opposition across the Democratic Party and creating a historic opportunity for a Democratic wave in 2026.

Key Takeaways
1

Trump’s foreign policy in Iran is a reckless escalation with no strategic rationale, driven by ego and revenge rather than national interest.

2

The 5,000 troop withdrawal from Germany is a symbolic tantrum that undermines NATO and U.S. military credibility.

3

The DOJ’s indictment of Jim Comey over 'seashell art' is a farcical example of political revenge that damages the rule of law.

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Trump’s approval rating has collapsed to 37%, with record disapproval on inflation, cost of living, and the Iran conflict.

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Trump’s vanity projects—like the massive triumphal arch and golf course—symbolize a narcissistic authoritarianism that alienates the public.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Iran Crisis and Trump's Escalation

The episode opens with a breaking update on missile exchanges between Iran and the U.S., including attacks on a South Korean cargo ship and U.S. vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump’s social media response and the launch of 'Project Freedom'—a plan to deploy 15,000 troops—are analyzed as reckless, symbolic actions with no clear strategic goal.

2:00
3 min

The 5,000 Troops Withdrawal from Germany

Kristol and Miller condemn Trump’s unilateral withdrawal of 5,000 troops from Germany as a childish, politically motivated act that undermines NATO and U.S. military readiness. They argue it signals a broader retreat from global leadership and strategic alliances.

5:00
5 min

The Jim Comey Indictment: A Farcical Prosecution

The only caution, as you sort of hinted at this, that I would have to our friends who were really just into the pure mockery is it also... Rene Good and Alex Peretti were killed, and the SPLC is being prosecuted for nothing...

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10:00
7 min

Trump’s Poll Numbers and the Cost of Living Crisis

If you think about it like that, it's totally understandable why his numbers would be that low. Yeah, and there's no reason for it except Trump's foolish policies.

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17:00
8 min

Trump’s Vanity Projects: The Triumphal Arch and Garden of Heroes

It's really grotesque. And everything's great. The grotesque, I wonder how much, I hope that's turning people off. He wants to build, there's a nice municipal golf course. I don't play golf, so I've never been there...

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High-Impact Quotes
It's really grotesque. And everything's great. The grotesque, I wonder how much, I hope that's turning people off. He wants to build, there's a nice municipal golf course. I don't play golf, so I've never been there...
Bill Kristol53:26
Viral: 92.0
If you think about it like that, it's totally understandable why his numbers would be that low. Yeah, and there's no reason for it except Trump's foolish policies.
Tim Miller34:36
Viral: 88.0
The only caution, as you sort of hinted at this, that I would have to our friends who were really just into the pure mockery is it also... Rene Good and Alex Peretti were killed, and the SPLC is being prosecuted for nothing...
Bill Kristol26:07
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Tim Miller

Guest

Bill Kristol
Topics Discussed
Iran Conflict and U.S. Foreign Policy95%Trump's Approval Ratings and Polling90%Authoritarianism and Democratic Backsliding88%Vanity Projects and Presidential Narcissism85%Economic Inflation and Cost of Living82%Judicial and Legal Recklessness80%NATO and U.S. Military Presence78%Democratic Party Unity and Internal Divisions75%
People & Brands

Donald Trump

person

120xNegative

Bill Kristol

person

85xPositive

Tim Miller

person

70xPositive

Iran

place

45xNegative

Jim Comey

person

25xNegative

The Bulwark Podcast

media

20xPositive

Arlington Cemetery

place

18xNegative

Todd Blanche

person

15xNegative

Borg Podcast

media

15xNeutral

Project Freedom

other

12xNegative

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