Bill Kristol: Trump's Revenge Tour Is Backfiring
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In this episode of The Bulwark Podcast, host Tim Miller and editor-at-large Bill Kristol dissect the escalating crisis in U.S.-Iran relations under President Trump, arguing that his so-called 'Revenge Tour' is backfiring politically and strategically. The episode opens with a tense update on missile exchanges in the Strait of Hormuz, Trump’s controversial social media post about Iran, and his deployment of 15,000 troops under the guise of 'Project Freedom'—a move Kristol calls a phony military escalation. They critique Trump’s erratic foreign policy, including the unilateral withdrawal of 5,000 troops from Germany, which they see as a childish, symbolic punishment that undermines NATO and U.S. strategic presence. The hosts also condemn the DOJ’s indictment of Jim Comey over 'seashell art'—a farcical prosecution that exemplifies the administration’s revenge-driven justice system. Poll numbers are dire: Trump’s approval rating has plummeted to 37%, with disapproval exceeding 50% on inflation, cost of living, and the Iran conflict. Kristol argues this reflects a broader erosion of public trust, as Trump’s policies—especially on tariffs, gas prices, and defense spending—have hurt ordinary Americans without offering coherent solutions. The episode closes with a scathing critique of Trump’s proposed 'triumphal arch' and garden of heroes, which Kristol describes as Stalinist, grotesque, and a symbol of narcissistic authoritarianism. The hosts conclude that Trump’s self-destructive policies are uniting opposition across the Democratic Party and creating a historic opportunity for a Democratic wave in 2026.
Trump’s foreign policy in Iran is a reckless escalation with no strategic rationale, driven by ego and revenge rather than national interest.
The 5,000 troop withdrawal from Germany is a symbolic tantrum that undermines NATO and U.S. military credibility.
The DOJ’s indictment of Jim Comey over 'seashell art' is a farcical example of political revenge that damages the rule of law.
Trump’s approval rating has collapsed to 37%, with record disapproval on inflation, cost of living, and the Iran conflict.
Trump’s vanity projects—like the massive triumphal arch and golf course—symbolize a narcissistic authoritarianism that alienates the public.
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Iran Crisis and Trump's Escalation
The episode opens with a breaking update on missile exchanges between Iran and the U.S., including attacks on a South Korean cargo ship and U.S. vessels in the Strait of Hormuz. Trump’s social media response and the launch of 'Project Freedom'—a plan to deploy 15,000 troops—are analyzed as reckless, symbolic actions with no clear strategic goal.
The 5,000 Troops Withdrawal from Germany
Kristol and Miller condemn Trump’s unilateral withdrawal of 5,000 troops from Germany as a childish, politically motivated act that undermines NATO and U.S. military readiness. They argue it signals a broader retreat from global leadership and strategic alliances.
The Jim Comey Indictment: A Farcical Prosecution
“The only caution, as you sort of hinted at this, that I would have to our friends who were really just into the pure mockery is it also... Rene Good and Alex Peretti were killed, and the SPLC is being prosecuted for nothing...”
Trump’s Poll Numbers and the Cost of Living Crisis
“If you think about it like that, it's totally understandable why his numbers would be that low. Yeah, and there's no reason for it except Trump's foolish policies.”
Trump’s Vanity Projects: The Triumphal Arch and Garden of Heroes
“It's really grotesque. And everything's great. The grotesque, I wonder how much, I hope that's turning people off. He wants to build, there's a nice municipal golf course. I don't play golf, so I've never been there...”
“It's really grotesque. And everything's great. The grotesque, I wonder how much, I hope that's turning people off. He wants to build, there's a nice municipal golf course. I don't play golf, so I've never been there...”
“If you think about it like that, it's totally understandable why his numbers would be that low. Yeah, and there's no reason for it except Trump's foolish policies.”
“The only caution, as you sort of hinted at this, that I would have to our friends who were really just into the pure mockery is it also... Rene Good and Alex Peretti were killed, and the SPLC is being prosecuted for nothing...”
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Iran
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Jim Comey
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