The Queen & the Presidents

The Brian Lehrer Show27mApril 14, 2026

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In this episode of The Brian Lehrer Show, USA Today's Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page discusses her new book, *The Queen and Her Presidents*, which explores Queen Elizabeth II's nuanced and influential relationships with U.S. presidents from Harry Truman to Donald Trump. Page reveals how the Queen, often underestimated as a ceremonial figure, wielded significant soft power through her deep access to classified intelligence, including Britain's Weekly Intelligence Summary and nuclear contingency planning, giving her unparalleled insight into global affairs. She shares intimate anecdotes—such as the awkward kiss between Jimmy Carter and the Queen Mother, the tense yet revealing dinner with Jackie Kennedy, and the Queen’s quiet but profound influence on leaders like Eisenhower and Obama. Page also examines the Queen’s complex legacy on colonialism and reparations, noting her emotional ties to Africa and her role in strengthening the U.S.-UK 'special relationship' even after her death, as seen in King Charles’s trade deal with Trump. The conversation shifts to current politics, with Page analyzing Congress’s lack of oversight on the Iran war, the potential for Democratic-led hearings, and the political implications of Viktor Orban’s defeat and Trump’s controversial 'Jesus' image. Despite the monarchy’s challenges, Page argues the Queen’s diplomatic legacy remains a quiet but enduring force in international relations.

Key Takeaways
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Queen Elizabeth II had unprecedented access to classified intelligence, including nuclear contingency plans, making her one of the most informed global leaders in modern history.

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Her influence was subtle but powerful—exercised through personal diplomacy, emotional intelligence, and deep historical awareness, not formal authority.

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The Queen’s relationship with American presidents evolved from cautious formality to genuine mutual respect, especially with Eisenhower, Obama, and Trump.

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Her legacy continues to shape diplomacy, as seen in the trade deal facilitated under King Charles following her death.

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The U.S.-UK special relationship, once a cornerstone of global stability, now faces strain amid geopolitical turmoil and shifting alliances.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

Sponsor: Capital.com – Trading with Clarity

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0:57
4 min

Introducing the Book: The Queen and Her Presidents

Brian Lehrer welcomes Susan Page, author of *The Queen and Her Presidents*, to discuss her new book, which examines the Queen’s behind-the-scenes influence on U.S.-UK relations across seven decades.

5:00
5 min

The 1939 Visit: A Turning Point in Anglo-American Relations

Page recounts the historic 1939 visit of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth to Hyde Park, where they were served hot dogs and refried beans by FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt—marking the first time a British monarch set foot on U.S. soil and signaling a new era in the special relationship.

10:00
7 min

The Queen’s Hidden Power: Access to Intelligence and Influence

There's really no other leader in the world in modern times who reigned for so long in such a serious way. Almost every day she's reading the government documents they sent her.

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17:00
7 min

Personal Diplomacy: The Queen and the Presidents

One gets crafty after a while and learns how to save oneself.

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High-Impact Quotes
There's really no other leader in the world in modern times who reigned for so long in such a serious way. Almost every day she's reading the government documents they sent her.
Susan Page6:26
Viral: 85.0
Even two and a half years after her death, Her Majesty's hidden hand was shaping the moment.
Susan Page18:11
Viral: 82.0
The special relationship has been gravely imperiled by the war in Iran and the debate over whether the U.S. might even withdraw from NATO.
Susan Page20:27
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Brian Lehrer

Guest

Susan Page
Topics Discussed
Queen Elizabeth II's Diplomatic Influence95%U.S.-UK Special Relationship90%Soft Power and Behind-the-Scenes Leadership88%Intelligence Access and Royal Secrecy87%Presidential Relationships with the Queen85%Monarchy in the Modern World80%Colonial Legacy and Reparations75%Trump's Political Image and Controversies70%
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Queen Elizabeth II

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Susan Page

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Brian Lehrer

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Donald Trump

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King Charles

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Barack Obama

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8xPositive

Jimmy Carter

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8xNeutral

Jackie Kennedy

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7xNeutral

Eisenhower

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6xPositive

Congress

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