Close Rikers Czar Dana Kaplan

The Brian Lehrer Show19mApril 29, 2026

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Dana Kaplan, newly appointed Close Rikers Czar by Mayor Mamdani, joins The Brian Lehrer Show to discuss the urgent and complex task of closing Rikers Island by 2027—a deadline now widely acknowledged as unattainable due to massive construction delays and cost overruns. The four borough-based jails meant to replace Rikers are not expected to be completed until 2032, with Brooklyn’s jail on track for 2029. Kaplan, a veteran criminal justice reformer with decades of experience under the de Blasio administration, emphasizes that closing Rikers is not just about new buildings but about transforming the entire pretrial justice system. She highlights key strategies to reduce the jail population, including speeding up case processing, expanding pretrial services, and improving mental health care, all of which she asserts will enhance public safety rather than compromise it. She also addresses community concerns about new jails being built in neighborhoods like Chinatown and Queens, arguing that proximity to courthouses reduces travel burdens and improves system efficiency, while committing to mitigate construction impacts through community engagement and neighborhood investments.

Key Takeaways
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The 2027 legal deadline to close Rikers Island is now widely seen as unachievable due to construction delays and cost overruns.

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Closing Rikers requires not just new facilities but systemic reform—reducing jail populations through faster case processing and better pretrial services.

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Proximity of new borough-based jails to courthouses will reduce travel time for inmates, lawyers, and families, improving system efficiency.

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Immediate improvements to conditions on Rikers Island are a priority, even as long-term closure efforts continue.

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Community opposition to new jails must be addressed through mitigation of construction impacts and meaningful neighborhood engagement.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Crisis of Rikers Island and the Unattainable 2027 Deadline

The 2027 legal deadline to close Rikers Island is now effectively acknowledged as impossible to meet because the four borough-based jails that are supposed to replace it presumably won't be ready in time.

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2:00
3 min

Introducing Dana Kaplan: The Close Rikers Czar

Dana Kaplan is introduced as the newly appointed Close Rikers Czar, a role created to coordinate the complex closure effort. She shares her decades-long background in criminal justice reform and her central role in designing the original Rikers closure plan.

5:00
5 min

Systemic Reform Over Brick-and-Mortar: Reducing Jail Populations

We know that there's a lot of ways to do that, that both deliver better outcomes and improved recidivism rates, but are also more effective and often more cost efficient as well.

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10:00
5 min

Addressing Community Opposition and Construction Concerns

We do take very, very seriously... how to make sure that these construction projects are not something that's going to have a negative impact on their quality of life.

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15:00
5 min

Why Not Rebuild on Rikers? The Case for Borough-Based Jails

Kaplan counters the argument to fix Rikers Island by explaining the logistical and systemic flaws of its remote location, the inefficiency of long-distance court transport, and the higher costs of rebuilding on the island.

High-Impact Quotes
The 2027 legal deadline to close Rikers Island is now effectively acknowledged as impossible to meet because the four borough-based jails that are supposed to replace it presumably won't be ready in time.
Brian Lehrer0:26
Viral: 85.0
There's people who are sitting in Rikers Island who've been there many years longer than that. That type of extended length of stay does not serve anyone well.
Dana Kaplan10:56
Viral: 80.0
We know that there's a lot of ways to do that, that both deliver better outcomes and improved recidivism rates, but are also more effective and often more cost efficient as well.
Dana Kaplan8:44
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Brian Lehrer

Guest

Dana Kaplan
Topics Discussed
Closing Rikers Island95%Borough-Based Jails90%Pretrial Justice Reform88%Jail Population Reduction85%Case Processing Delays82%Community Opposition to Jails80%Mental Health in Jails78%Justice System Efficiency75%
People & Brands

Dana Kaplan

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25xPositive

Rikers Island

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Brian Lehrer

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Brooklyn Borough-Based Jail

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4xPositive

Mike (Queens listener)

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3xPositive

Manhattan Chinatown Jail

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3xNeutral

Mayor Mamdani

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3xPositive

311

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2xNegative

Bellevue Hospital

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2xPositive

Independent Rikers Commission

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2xPositive

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