Today’s Terrorism Threats: Everything, Everywhere, All at Once (with Rebecca Weiner)
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In this episode of Stay Tuned, Preet Bharara speaks with Rebecca Weiner, Deputy Commissioner of Counterterrorism and Intelligence at the New York City Police Department, about the evolving and increasingly complex terrorism threat landscape. Weiner describes a 'everything, everywhere, all at once' threat environment shaped by a convergence of conventional terrorism, domestic polarization, grievance-fueled violence, and the rise of nihilistic violent extremism—particularly targeting youth through online grooming and radicalization. She explains how the NYPD operates with a vast, multi-agency intelligence apparatus, including overseas operatives, bomb squads, counter-drone units, and a robust network of surveillance and human intelligence, all while navigating strict legal constraints under the HANSHU consent decree. Despite the challenges of predicting lone-actor attacks and the speed at which young individuals mobilize online, Weiner emphasizes the critical role of human judgment, interagency coordination, and proactive deterrence in preventing violence before it occurs. The conversation also touches on the blurred lines between terrorism and ordinary crime, especially in cases like the assassination of Brian Thompson, which, while not conventional terrorism, instilled widespread fear and had terroristic impact. Weiner addresses the balance between security and civil liberties, affirming that the NYPD operates within strong legal guardrails, including civilian oversight. She discusses emerging threats such as 'terrorism as a service'—where individuals are hired online to carry out sabotage—and the growing influence of online communities that glorify violence. The episode concludes with reflections on how national events, including controversial law enforcement actions elsewhere, reverberate in New York, underscoring the interconnected nature of modern security challenges.
The current threat environment is characterized by a convergence of multiple, rapidly evolving threats—conventional terrorism, domestic extremism, grievance-fueled violence, and nihilistic online radicalization.
The NYPD maintains a highly sophisticated, multi-layered counterterrorism infrastructure with overseas presence, bomb squads, surveillance, and human intelligence, all operating under strict legal oversight.
Lone-actor threats are increasingly difficult to detect due to the absence of traditional tripwires; online radicalization and grooming are now the primary early warning signs.
The concept of 'terrorism as a service'—where individuals are hired online to carry out attacks—represents a new, decentralized threat vector that is hard to trace and control.
Despite the complexity, the NYPD relies on human judgment, interagency coordination, and intelligence-driven deterrence rather than reactive policing to prevent attacks.
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Introducing the New Threat Environment
Preet Bharara introduces the episode and sets the stage by discussing the complexity of modern terrorism threats, emphasizing the need for coordinated intelligence and real-time response across agencies. He highlights the significance of the Iran conflict and its global ripple effects.
Defining Terrorism in the Modern Era
“We've seen these acts of violence that are terroristic in impact, similar in nature, but quite different from the conventional terrorism that we think about and that we've been fighting for 25 years.”
The NYPD’s Counterterrorism Infrastructure
“You have access to a legion of intelligence analysts, counter assault and dignitary protection teams, flotilla of boats... a network of multilingual undercover operatives who subvert malicious actors across the U.S. and around the world.”
The Challenge of Lone Actors and Online Radicalization
“What was travel overseas to a training camp is now the leakage that we can see online in association with somebody's radicalization process when it's happening.”
The Rise of Nihilistic Violent Extremism
“It is influencer culture at its most insidious. It is shocking and that's the point. The worse, the better.”
“It is influencer culture at its most insidious. It is shocking and that's the point. The worse, the better.”
“You have access to a legion of intelligence analysts, counter assault and dignitary protection teams, flotilla of boats... a network of multilingual undercover operatives who subvert malicious actors across the U.S. and around the world.”
“We've seen these acts of violence that are terroristic in impact, similar in nature, but quite different from the conventional terrorism that we think about and that we've been fighting for 25 years.”
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