Episode 401: 9 Truths about Training Paces
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In episode 401 of Running Rogue, hosts Chris McClung and James Dodds dive deep into the nuanced reality of training paces, challenging the common misconception that pace is a rigid, definitive measure of success. They emphasize that pace is merely a proxy for effort, not the end goal, and that true training success lies in delivering the right physiological stimulus—regardless of the clock. The episode unpacks nine key truths, including the importance of training where you are to get where you want to go, adjusting for environmental conditions like heat and humidity, and understanding that training paces and race paces are not always aligned. The hosts stress that effort, not pace, should be the primary focus, and that patience, consistency, and adaptability are essential for long-term progress. They also highlight that training paces naturally fluctuate across cycles due to fitness gains, injuries, or seasonal changes, and that progress is not linear—embracing this ebb and flow is part of the journey. The conversation reinforces the idea that training is about development, not affirmation. Athletes are encouraged to avoid overreaching by chasing future race paces before they’re ready, as this can derail fitness gains. Instead, they should focus on building a strong aerobic base through conservative, effort-based training. Practical tools like the three-pace range approach and using time trials, race results, and perceived effort to triangulate target paces are recommended. Ultimately, the episode serves as a philosophical and practical guide to rethinking how runners approach pacing—shifting from a results-driven mindset to one rooted in process, presence, and long-term growth.
Pace is a proxy for effort, not a definitive measure of success; focus on effort, not the clock.
Train where you are to get where you want to go—don’t overreach by chasing future race paces prematurely.
Adjust paces for conditions like heat, humidity, and altitude; don’t stick to a target pace blindly.
Use a range (e.g., ±5–10 seconds) around target paces to allow flexibility and mental freedom.
Training paces and race paces are not always the same—race pace is determined after training, not before.
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Welcome to Episode 401: The Truth About Training Paces
Chris McClung welcomes listeners to the 401st episode of Running Rogue, introducing James Dodds and setting the stage for a deep dive into training paces. They highlight the importance of this topic in the context of fall race preparation and the upcoming training season.
Pace as a Proxy for Effort: The Core Principle
“Pace is just a proxy for effort. It's not the end all and be all.”
Training Paces vs. Race Paces: Why They’re Not Always the Same
“Your race pace is what you're going to determine and select as like, all right, if I'm racing a 5K, I think this is the best I can run at it...”
The Danger of Overreaching: Train Where You Are
“Train where you are to get where you want to go. That’s principle number four on our list.”
Practical Tools: Using Ranges, Triangulation, and Conditions
The hosts discuss practical strategies for applying training paces, including using a three-pace range (e.g., 325–335 for a 330 pace), triangulating with time trials, race results, and perceived effort, and adjusting for weather and terrain.
“Pace is just a proxy for effort. It's not the end all and be all.”
“Train where you are to get where you want to go.”
“Heat and humidity are like the poor man's altitude training.”
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