Episode #396: What is Aerobic Strength?
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In episode 396 of Running Rogue, hosts Chris McClung and James Dodds dive deep into the aerobic strength phase of training, a critical six-to-eight-week period that follows the base phase and precedes the race-specific phase. They clarify that aerobic strength isn't about muscular power but rather the ability to sustain hard efforts while still operating in an oxygen-driven, aerobic state—essentially building endurance, staying power, and the capacity to maintain pace without fatigue. The episode emphasizes three guiding principles: effort trumps pace, control and relaxation are paramount, and when in doubt, be conservative. The hosts stress that this phase is not about pushing to the edge, but about making challenging efforts feel easier over time, which builds both physiological efficiency and mental resilience. They also warn against common pitfalls like trying to do too much too soon, especially when behind on volume, and reinforce that volume remains king—long runs and weekly mileage should still be progressively increasing. The discussion includes real-world examples like the 'Lumberjack Twist' and 'Hilly Julia' workouts, which combine hills, tempo runs, and interval work to build strength without overtaxing the body. The episode closes with a strong reminder to keep perspective: aerobic strength workouts are not standalone magic but part of a larger, carefully structured training plan. Key takeaways include: (1) Focus on effort over pace, especially in variable conditions like heat or altitude; (2) Prioritize relaxation and control during hard efforts to improve efficiency and delay fatigue; (3) Never sacrifice volume for intensity—volume is still the foundation; (4) Use conservative choices when uncertain to preserve long-term progress; (5) Incorporate compound workouts like hill-tempo combos to build strength without excessive stress; (6) Remember that this phase sets the stage for race-specific training, not the final performance. The tone is encouraging, grounded in science and experience, and deeply practical, with a strong emphasis on mental and physical sustainability.
Aerobic strength is about sustaining hard efforts aerobically—building staying power, not just speed.
Effort trumps pace; focus on how you feel, not just your split times, especially in changing conditions.
Control and relaxation are more important than pushing harder—making hard efforts feel easier is the goal.
Volume remains the top priority; never sacrifice weekly mileage for intensity.
When in doubt, do less—conservatism preserves long-term progress and peak performance.
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Taper Phase Reminders for Spring Marathoners
“It's normal. You're not alone. It is something that every person faces regardless of what their goal is and what they're trying to tackle or the level or the experience.”
Defining Aerobic Strength: Beyond Muscular Power
“The stronger you are aerobically, the stronger you'll be able to finish races.”
Guiding Principles of the Aerobic Strength Phase
“When it feels too hard, what do I do? I focus on this kind of meditative, relaxing, flow-oriented approach to running.”
Volume, Consistency, and the Danger of Shortcuts
“Don't ever rush to workouts without the appropriate volume under your belt. It's a recipe for injury. It's a recipe for plateauing. It's a recipe for not getting what you want on race day.”
Workouts and Examples: Hill-Tempo, Lumberjack Twist, Julia
The hosts present real-world workout examples that embody the aerobic strength phase: hill repeats, tempo runs, and compound workouts like the 'Lumberjack Twist' and 'Hilly Julia.' These combine hills, intervals, and sustained effort to build strength without excessive stress. They highlight that these workouts are not about precision but about managing fatigue and building resilience through controlled, challenging efforts.
“Don't ever rush to workouts without the appropriate volume under your belt. It's a recipe for injury. It's a recipe for plateauing. It's a recipe for not getting what you want on race day.”
“When it feels too hard, what do I do? I focus on this kind of meditative, relaxing, flow-oriented approach to running.”
“If someone tells you that you need to do high intensity interval training in order to improve your VO2 max, then you should jog slowly away.”
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James Dodds
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Alan Cousins
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