The Panel with Richard Pamatatau and Penny Ashton, Part 2

RNZ - All Programmes24mApril 7, 2026

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In this vibrant continuation of the RNZ panel show, Penny Ashton and Richard Pamatatau engage in a mix of heartfelt reflection, policy discussion, and cultural commentary. The episode opens with Penny celebrating her mother’s 80th birthday and honoring her lifelong dedication to unpaid community service, from PTA leadership to church newsletter production. This sets a tone of gratitude and civic virtue, which transitions into Richard’s enthusiasm for in-class poetry exams that revealed students’ profound critical insight—proof, he argues, that when given space, young people can astonish with creativity and depth. The conversation then pivots to urban planning, with economist Dr. Eric Crampton advocating for pricing on-street parking to manage scarcity, proposing tradable resident parking passes as a fair and market-sensible solution. The panel debates the idea’s feasibility, acknowledging challenges like public transport gaps and political resistance, while affirming its potential to reduce congestion and incentivize alternative parking solutions. Later, the show shifts to a lighter, personal note with a 'musical artist I should like but don’t' segment, featuring candid confessions from Wallace, Julian, Penny, and others about their resistance to artists like Taylor Swift, Nick Cave, and David Bowie—highlighting the subjectivity of taste. The episode closes on a touching note with Warren Richardson of 'Have A Chat,' a Picton food cart that doubles as a listening space for people in crisis, emphasizing empathy, non-judgment, and human connection in a fast-paced world.

Key Takeaways
1

Volunteering and community service, especially unpaid roles, are vital and often underappreciated forms of civic contribution.

2

When students are given space and proper training, they can deliver extraordinary insights—especially in close reading and creative analysis.

3

Pricing on-street parking through tradable resident passes can efficiently manage scarcity, reduce congestion, and respect existing homeowners’ rights.

4

Cultural taste is deeply subjective—disliking a popular artist doesn’t reflect failure, but personal resonance and emotional connection.

5

Simple acts of listening—like those offered at 'Have A Chat'—can be transformative for people experiencing isolation or crisis.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Honoring a Life of Service

She never saw a committee that she didn't want to be on. And none of that was paid.

Highlight
1:55
4 min

Students Reveal Hidden Brilliance

If you give them the space to show you how smart they are, how creative they are, then they are going to blow you away.

Highlight
6:20
8 min

Solving the Parking Crisis with Pricing

It turns new developments next door from being a threat to my ability to find a car park to being people who might pay me a lot of money for something that I don't really value that much.

Highlight
14:40
7 min

The Subjectivity of Musical Taste

Panelists share personal struggles with liking artists they feel they 'should' enjoy—Taylor Swift, David Bowie, Nick Cave, and others—emphasizing that taste is deeply personal and not a measure of worth.

21:50
3 min

Have A Chat: Listening as a Radical Act

We don't judge. We're there to listen.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
If you give them the space to show you how smart they are, how creative they are, then they are going to blow you away.
Richard Pamatatau3:11
Viral: 90.0
It turns new developments next door from being a threat to my ability to find a car park to being people who might pay me a lot of money for something that I don't really value that much.
Dr. Eric Crampton11:11
Viral: 88.0
She never saw a committee that she didn't want to be on. And none of that was paid.
Penny Ashton0:31
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Penny AshtonRichard Pamatatau

Guests

Dr. Eric CramptonWarren RichardsonJulian
Topics Discussed
Mental Health and Listening Spaces95%Urban Parking Policy92%Community Volunteering90%Market-Based Solutions in Urban Planning88%The Role of Empathy in Public Life87%Education and Student Creativity85%Civic Engagement and Social Connection82%Subjectivity of Artistic Taste80%
People & Brands

Penny Ashton

person

15xPositive

Richard Pamatatau

person

12xPositive

Wallace

person

10xPositive

Dr. Eric Crampton

person

10xPositive

Warren Richardson

person

8xPositive

David Bowie

person

7xMixed

Have A Chat

organization

6xPositive

Julian

person

5xNeutral

Picton Foreshore

place

4xPositive

Taylor Swift

person

4xNeutral

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