The Panel with Richard Pamatatau and Penny Ashton, Part 1

RNZ - All Programmes23mApril 7, 2026

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This episode of RNZ's All Programmes features a dynamic panel discussion on two major current events in New Zealand. First, the impending closure of Radio Wāiti, New Zealand's only Māori-language news bulletin, after 20 years, due to a proposed 30% funding cut from the Crown agency Te Māngai Pāho. Matthew Tukaki, General Manager of Radio Wāiti, reveals a last-minute three-month reprieve secured through partnerships with urban Māori authorities, but warns that the broader threat to iwi media remains. Panelists Penny Ashton and Richard Papatāu emphasize the cultural, linguistic, and emergency communication value of local Māori radio, criticizing the government's shift toward digital-only platforms and the controversial replacement plan, the National News Hub, which was awarded to a non-Māori-owned entity. The second major topic is the passing of a member's bill that lifts alcohol sale restrictions on Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Anzac Day morning, and Christmas Day for premises already open. While Penny Ashton welcomes the change as a matter of personal freedom and practicality, Grant Hewerson from Communities Against Alcohol Harm expresses deep concern over eroding cultural and spiritual traditions, warning of increased alcohol-related harm. The episode closes with a lighthearted but revealing 'question of the day' on musical artists one should like but doesn’t, with panelists candidly rejecting The Beatles and David Bowie due to perceived misogyny and over-saturation.

Key Takeaways
1

Iwi media, particularly Radio Wāiti, is vital for preserving te reo Māori, delivering hyper-local news, and serving as a lifeline during emergencies.

2

The proposed 30% funding cut to Māori radio stations is disproportionately harsh compared to other Crown agencies and risks eroding cultural sovereignty.

3

The replacement for Radio Wāiti, the National News Hub, is delayed and controversial due to its non-Māori ownership, raising concerns about authenticity and accountability.

4

Lifting alcohol sale restrictions on sacred days like Anzac Day and Good Friday is seen by some as a loss of cultural reflection, while others view it as a matter of personal freedom and economic practicality.

5

Cultural and generational divides exist around music, with even beloved artists like The Beatles and David Bowie facing criticism for perceived flaws in lyrics or legacy.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Opening: The Panel and the Question of the Day

Wallace Chapman introduces the panel and the episode's central question: which musical artist do you feel you should like but just don’t? The discussion begins with a brief preview of major news topics, including the potential closure of Radio Wāiti and the passing of a bill to lift alcohol restrictions on religious and commemorative days.

2:00
4 min

The Crisis Facing Radio Wāiti and Māori Media

This is not like Wati's closing down. This is losing a significant part of our culture and of our language in a multicultural bilingual country where Māori is an official language.

Highlight
6:00
5 min

The Cultural and Emergency Value of Iwi Radio

In the marae, which we often open up for community centres and hubs for people to be safe and have a roof over their heads in times of disasters, the videos are on. So it is a pivotal key point of communication.

Highlight
11:00
5 min

Criticism of the National News Hub and Government Priorities

They had that old classic song, Video Killed the Radio Star. In reality, I think the other thing people need to be conscious of, the replacement platform... was meant to be ready on the 1st of January. It's not and it's still not going to be ready until late April or early May.

Highlight
16:00
5 min

The Alcohol Restriction Bill and Cultural Debate

The panel discusses the newly passed bill allowing alcohol sales on Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Anzac Day morning, and Christmas Day for already-open premises. Grant Hewerson from Communities Against Alcohol Harm argues this undermines cultural reflection and increases harm, while Penny Ashton defends it as a personal freedom and economic necessity.

High-Impact Quotes
This is not like Wati's closing down. This is losing a significant part of our culture and of our language in a multicultural bilingual country where Māori is an official language.
Matthew Tukaki12:24
Viral: 85.0
I don't like the misogyny and run for your life if you can, little girl. Hide your place in the sand. It'll be the end, little girl.
Wallace Chapman22:34
Viral: 80.0
I don't like the misogyny and run for your life if you can, little girl. Hide your place in the sand. It'll be the end, little girl. Wow.
Wallace Chapman22:34
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Wallace Chapman

Guests

Matthew TukakiGrant Hewerson
Topics Discussed
Māori Media Funding Crisis95%Emergency Communication and Radio Resilience90%Cultural Preservation and Te Reo Māori88%Government Accountability and Māori Self-Determination85%Alcohol Restriction Legislation80%Cultural vs. Personal Freedom75%Digital Transition and Media Authenticity70%Music Taste and Cultural Pressure65%
People & Brands

Radio Wāiti

organization

12xPositive

Matthew Tukaki

person

10xPositive

Te Māngai Pāho

organization

8xNegative

Penny Ashton

person

7xPositive

Richard Papatāu

person

6xPositive

Anzac Day

other

6xNeutral

The Beatles

other

5xNegative

Grant Hewerson

person

5xNegative

Good Friday

other

5xNeutral

TikTok

other

4xNegative

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