Stop the Steal Never Stopped

Reveal50mMay 9, 2026

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This episode of Reveal investigates the enduring 'Stop the Steal' movement in the United States, focusing on the FBI raid of a Fulton County, Georgia election warehouse in January 2024. The raid, which seized over 650 boxes of election documents, is portrayed not as a genuine investigation into fraud, but as a political act rooted in long-standing conspiracy theories. The episode traces how grassroots election denialism—fueled by figures like Steve Bannon, Mike Lindell, and Georgia state election board members Sally Grubbs, Janice Johnston, and Janelle King—has evolved into institutional power. These individuals, many of whom have no credible legal or electoral expertise, now hold sway over election integrity processes, using minor administrative errors to justify sweeping claims of fraud. The episode reveals how the movement has weaponized the justice system, with a White House referral from Kurt Olson—a lawyer who lost multiple lawsuits challenging election results—leading to the FBI raid. Despite exhaustive reviews of the 2020 election, including recounts and independent audits, the movement persists, driven by a desire to sow distrust and ultimately gain control over future elections. The real danger, experts warn, is not fraud, but voter suppression through psychological manipulation—making people believe their votes don't matter. The episode also explores the broader implications of this movement, particularly its impact on the 2024 and 2026 elections. It examines how the Trump administration’s executive orders and the Justice Department’s lawsuits against states over voter roll data are attempts to centralize control over elections, violating constitutional principles. At CPAC, the movement’s rhetoric is amplified by figures like Greg Bovino and Aaron Kotzbauer, who advocate for ICE at polling places and hand-counted ballots, despite evidence showing non-citizen voting is extremely rare. The episode concludes with a warning: the movement’s goal is not to fix elections, but to dismantle trust in them. The most effective response, experts argue, is simple—just go vote. The episode underscores that the real threat is not to the integrity of the vote, but to the belief in it.

Key Takeaways
1

The FBI raid on Fulton County’s election warehouse was not based on new evidence but on a White House referral from a discredited lawyer, Kurt Olson.

2

Georgia’s state election board, now dominated by election deniers, has unprecedented power to take over elections in counties deemed 'underperforming'.

3

Minor administrative errors in elections are being weaponized as proof of widespread fraud, despite no evidence of actual voter fraud.

4

The 'Stop the Steal' movement is not about fixing elections—it's about creating doubt to suppress voter turnout and consolidate political power.

5

The real danger is not fraud, but voter self-suppression: when people believe their vote doesn’t matter, they stop voting.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Legacy Challenge: Support Independent Journalism

A fundraising segment for Reveal’s Legacy Challenge, encouraging listeners to include the organization in their estate plans to unlock a $10,000 matching gift from a donor.

1:54
5 min

The FBI Raid in Fulton County: A Political Theater

This is political theater aimed to undermine and set us up for a takeover of our elections.

Highlight
6:30
6 min

The Rise of the Georgia Election Board

The board used to be composed of nerdy lawyers and technocrats working to ensure that elections in the Peach State ran smoothly. But in the last few years, the board has been transformed.

Highlight
12:00
7 min

The Myth of the Shredding Truck and the Cult of the Investigator

Well, that was me. And so there's pretty much nothing I won't do.

Highlight
19:00
7 min

The Boardroom as a Stage: Performing Election Integrity

A detailed account of a Georgia election board meeting, where minor infractions are treated as national crises, and a woman who voted in two states is reprimanded despite no legal violation.

High-Impact Quotes
A lawyer who lost case after case trying to overturn the 2020 election is now in the White House, charged with reinvestigating the results in 2020.
Abby Vassoulis43:56
Viral: 95.0
We should damn well suppress any illegal alien or foreign national that doesn't have the right to vote in our election.
Greg Bovino27:27
Viral: 90.0
The easiest way to suppress a vote is to get a voter to self-suppress.
David Becker50:17
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Al Letton

Guests

Abby VassoulisNajeeb AminiJonathan JonesDavid BeckerSally GrubbsJanice JohnstonJanelle KingKurt OlsenSteve BannonMike LindellGreg BovinoAaron KotzbauerBob HallCarrie Lake
Topics Discussed
election fraud conspiracy theories95%fbi raid on election warehouse90%state election board power grab88%voter suppression tactics85%white house involvement in elections82%dominion voting machine myths78%cpac and right wing mobilization75%citizenship requirements for voting70%
People & Brands

Georgia

place

20xNegative

Fulton County

place

15xNegative

Donald Trump

person

13xPositive

Sally Grubbs

person

12xPositive

FBI

organization

12xNegative

Steve Bannon

person

11xPositive

Janice Johnston

person

10xPositive

Kurt Olsen

person

10xPositive

Janelle King

person

9xPositive

Dana Barrett

person

8xPositive

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