Tom Rob Smith on 20 Years Together, Love Stories, Writing Endings and Why This Book Is So Personal
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Tom Rob Smith, best known for his gripping spy thrillers like the Child 44 trilogy, makes a bold and deeply personal departure with his new book, 20 Years Together—a love story rooted in his own 13-year relationship and the complex, almost philosophical question of whether to marry when same-sex marriage became legal in the UK. What begins as a quiet exploration of intimacy, identity, and the weight of tradition evolves into a profound meditation on hope, vulnerability, and the emotional labor of long-term love. Smith reveals that writing this book was far more emotionally taxing than any thriller, requiring him to step back and rework it with cold objectivity after a year-long pause. He draws a striking parallel between the suspense in his spy fiction and the quiet tension of a relationship questioning its own future: 'the mystery of who we are' becomes the most compelling narrative engine. Despite the emotional toll, he found catharsis in crafting a story that feels both intimate and universal, one that resonates with readers who’ve experienced love’s quiet, enduring power. The book’s emotional core is anchored in 2012 London—post-recession, pre-Olympics—a time of fragile national hope that mirrors the personal optimism Smith sought to capture. He reflects on how even the most epic stories thrive when they’re grounded in intimate truth, a principle he’s long practiced, whether in Soviet-era thrillers or the real-life trauma behind The Assassination of Gianni Versace.
The most powerful love stories are built on the same mystery as thrillers: not 'who did it?' but 'who are you really?'
Writing a deeply personal book requires stepping away for a year to gain the emotional distance needed for ruthless editing.
Hope is not a passive feeling—it’s a deliberate act of choosing joy and optimism, especially in dark times.
The best stories—whether thrillers or love letters—work because they’re rooted in intimate, real human experience.
You don’t need to be a fan of a genre to write in it—Tom Rob Smith wrote a love story because the story demanded to be told, not because he wanted to.
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Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
Philippa Hall introduces the Quick Book Reviews podcast and welcomes Tom Rob Smith to discuss his new book, 20 Years Together, marking a significant departure from his spy fiction roots.
Dream vs. Nightmare Writing Locations
Tom shares his preference for writing with a view—cityscapes, mountains, or countryside—contrasting it with his inability to write on a blank page in noisy environments, even if he can rewrite in them.
The Origin of 20 Years Together: A Personal and Philosophical Journey
“It became almost like a kind of weird test of where we were. And I just thought this was a really interesting way to explore the marriage story.”
The Emotional Toll of Writing a Personal Story
“I had to kind of wait almost a year for everything to settle down. And in that year, I had time. It was like left, kind of I went, the whole book kind of went cold and I came back to it almost like an objective outsider.”
“I had to kind of wait almost a year for everything to settle down. And in that year, I had time. It was like left, kind of I went, the whole book kind of went cold and I came back to it almost like an objective outsider.”
“I remember thinking I'm going to set it in that year of 2012. I want to capture some of the hope that the country felt at that time.”
“I find endings are very tricky, but I'm very happy with the final pages of 20 years. I think when I read it, I feel like, oh yeah, that's exactly how the book should have ended.”
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20 Years Together
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Philippa Hall
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The Assassination of Gianni Versace
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