Why Arkells still want to play small venues — like a strip club
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In this episode of Q with Tom Power, the Canadian rock band Arkells discuss their intentional shift toward playing small, intimate venues—like a strip club, a Legion hall, and a neighborhood pub—despite their massive success. Frontman Max Kerman and guitarist Mike DeAngelis explain that this move is rooted in a desire to reconnect with their roots, preserve authenticity, and foster genuine human connection. They reflect on how touring in large arenas can feel mechanical and disconnected, while smaller shows allow for raw, communal experiences. The conversation delves into their new album, *Between Us*, which was recorded with producer John Congleton in a collaborative, live-in-studio style, emphasizing emotional authenticity over polished perfection. The band also shares personal stories—like debuting songs in a garage, reuniting with old friends, and honoring social workers in their hometowns—highlighting their commitment to staying grounded and socially aware. Ultimately, the episode frames Arkells’ choices not as nostalgia, but as a conscious ideology: prioritizing shared humanity over spectacle.
Prioritize intimate, community-centered venues to maintain authentic connection with fans.
Use music and live performance as a tool for social cohesion, not just entertainment.
Create art with purpose—make it feel important to yourself, not just for external validation.
Reconnect with your roots by revisiting old hangouts and supporting local people and places.
Challenge the 'hustle culture' mindset by valuing presence over performance and profit.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Rise of Arkells and the Cost of Success
Tom Power introduces Arkells as one of Canada's most beloved rock bands, tracing their journey from McMaster University bar gigs to playing stadiums and football fields. He sets up the central theme: how success can create distance between artists and their original fans.
Why Small Venues Matter: The Sun, Moon, and Neon Signs
“The sun is meant to be shared. The moon is meant to be shared. And your neighborhood bar with like the neon sign... is like a place where people can come together.”
The Garage Debut and the Spirit of 'Between Us'
“We just wanted to make it this collective thing that we can do together in a very natural environment.”
The Strip Club Tour: A New Kind of Challenge
“It’s like Groundhog Day... you can’t really change up the set too much. It’s almost more like musical theater.”
The Album, the Process, and the Purpose
“The only thing that ever makes me feel good is just like, do we have a sense of purpose in our work?”
“People with immense privilege... have such a duty to be living and breathing in the same area as everybody else.”
“The only thing that ever makes me feel good is just like, do we have a sense of purpose in our work?”
“The only solution to like the political division that we have and the social isolation that we have is like seeing people, like in real life and not some caricature.”
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Tom Power
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John Congleton
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The Penthouse
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Chris Dickinson
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