These choreographers are making the invisible visible through dance
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In this episode of Q, host Tom Power speaks with acclaimed choreographers Orr Schreiber and Bobby Jean Smith about their collaborative creative process, their upcoming world premiere 'Procession' with the National Ballet of Canada, and how dance serves as a profound medium for inner expression. The duo, who are both dancers, partners, and parents, trace their artistic bond back to their time at the Bacheva Dance Company in Tel Aviv, where they were both trained in Ohad Naharin’s revolutionary Gaga movement practice. They discuss how Gaga dismantles traditional performance expectations by encouraging dancers to listen to their bodies and move from instinct rather than external validation. Their work is deeply rooted in authenticity, collaboration, and the idea of making the invisible—emotions, subconscious impulses, personal histories—visible through movement. They describe their rehearsal process as intentionally chaotic, designed to reveal rather than impose, allowing dancers to contribute their own voices and experiences. The conversation explores the emotional depth of their work, the challenges of balancing artistic vision with collective input, and the intimate fusion of their personal and professional lives. As they prepare for their debut with Canada’s National Ballet, they emphasize that the dancers are not just performers but co-creators whose presence and humanity shape the final piece.
Gaga movement practice helps dancers reconnect with their bodies and inner impulses, moving beyond external validation to authentic expression.
True collaboration in choreography means creating space for dancers to contribute their own ideas and stories, making the final piece a collective creation.
The creative process is not about control but about listening—listening to the body, the room, and the subconscious.
Artistic breakthroughs often emerge when the choreographer lets go of having answers and instead embraces the mystery of discovery.
The piece 'Procession' explores the tension between individual identity and collective movement, using ritual as a metaphor for human connection.
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Introduction: The Journey of Dance and Collaboration
Tom Power introduces the episode, framing the conversation around the idea that the creative journey is as important as the destination, setting the stage for a deep dive into the lives and work of choreographers Orr Schreiber and Bobby Jean Smith.
From Tel Aviv to Toronto: The Origins of a Creative Duo
The hosts explore how Orr and Bobby first met at the Bacheva Dance Company in Tel Aviv, where they were both trained under the influential choreographer Ohad Naharin and introduced to the transformative Gaga movement practice.
Gaga: A Practice, Not a Style
“When I would be imagining these things, I actually would be moving my body as if I was weightless in the water. As if I was feeling my spine and it would lead to movement.”
The Birth of a Collaboration: From Observation to Co-Creation
“I fell in love with creative process and just being in the studio and brainstorming and editing and exploring and researching and finding things and dropping things also.”
Making the Invisible Visible: The Art of Authentic Movement
“How do we make the invisible visible? And in our medium, it's dance. It's through the body always.”
“How do we make the invisible visible? And in our medium, it's dance. It's through the body always.”
“We get to share what we love together and we get to make things and share them with the world. It's worth all the effort.”
“When I would be imagining these things, I actually would be moving my body as if I was weightless in the water. As if I was feeling my spine and it would lead to movement.”
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Orr Schreiber
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Tom Power
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Gaga
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Procession
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Ohad Naharin
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Bacheva Dance Company
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National Ballet of Canada
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Authentic Movement
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Carl Jung
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