Folk trio The Pairs don’t write songs with perfect endings
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In this episode of Q with Tom Power, host Tom Power interviews members of the London, Ontario folk trio The Pairs—Renee and Noelle Coughlin and Hilary Watson—about their new album *Together on a Rock* and the lead single 'Past My Prime.' The conversation centers on the emotional honesty of the song, which captures the anxiety of aging, creative doubt, and the uncertainty of pursuing music as a career in one's mid-30s. The band reflects on their unconventional path—starting late, working non-music jobs (early childhood education and cooking on a ship), and finding their footing only after personal loss and the pandemic. They discuss the importance of regular 'check-ins' to ensure their artistic choices align with their values and inner truth. The song’s unresolved ending—where the protagonist can’t call the basement apartment home despite multiple coats of paint—symbolizes the ongoing, imperfect journey of self-acceptance and belonging. Power praises the courage in not offering a neat resolution, calling it a rare and powerful form of authenticity in music. The episode underscores the vulnerability required to create art that resonates, especially when it confronts uncomfortable truths about time, identity, and the lack of clear milestones in creative careers. The Pairs’ story is one of resilience, mutual support, and quiet determination. Their journey from side-stage performers at Mariposa Folk Festival to a growing national presence reflects how authenticity and consistency can build connection even without glamour or certainty. The episode ends with a celebration of their music not for its perfection, but for its raw truth.
Artistic authenticity often lies in unresolved emotions—not every song needs a happy ending.
Regular check-ins with your creative team help maintain alignment with your values and purpose.
Pursuing music as a career later in life is valid and meaningful, even if it doesn’t follow a traditional timeline.
The 'coat of paint' metaphor captures the ongoing, imperfect effort to create a sense of belonging.
Sharing vulnerability in art can be healing and connect deeply with others who feel unseen.
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Introduction and Sponsor Segment
Tom Power introduces the episode with a sponsorship plug for Shopify, highlighting its conversion tools and multi-channel sales capabilities. He welcomes listeners to Q and previews the upcoming episode.
The Pairs at Mariposa Folk Festival
“The crowd, even though they were hearing all this cacophony going on nearby, they were locked in on the pairs.”
Exploring 'Past My Prime': Doubt, Time, and Belonging
“I'm 35 years old. And just, well, I mean, a big one is in the music industry. It's like, okay, well... wanting to make it and what is making it...”
The Power of Unresolved Truth in Songwriting
“It's not necessarily hopeful, it's just real. And I'm really trying to be honest in the songs that I write...”
The 'Check-Ins' and Collective Alignment
The band discusses their practice of regular check-ins to ensure they’re aligned in purpose and values. They reflect on how personal loss, therapy, and the pandemic helped them clarify their artistic identity.
“It's not necessarily hopeful, it's just real. And I'm really trying to be honest in the songs that I write...”
“The crowd, even though they were hearing all this cacophony going on nearby, they were locked in on the pairs.”
“Sharing the really sore, painful parts are appreciated. And that's... okay, you are doing the right thing.”
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Tom Power
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The Pairs
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Hilary Watson
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Renee Coughlin
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Together on a Rock
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pandemic
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Mariposa Folk Festival
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Shopify
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Noelle Coughlin
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London, Ontario
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