PCB Metrology Gap: How SCAN Labs Is Automating Microsectioning
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In this episode of the Altium OnTrack podcast, host Zach Peterson welcomes back Jeffrey Leeds, founder of ScanLabs, to discuss the critical metrology gap in PCB manufacturing. Leeds explains how traditional microsectioning—essential for validating high-reliability PCBs in aerospace, defense, medical, and automotive industries—remains stubbornly manual, operator-dependent, and slow, despite the increasing complexity and density of modern boards. He reveals that ScanLabs has developed a fully automated, serialized grinding and imaging system that eliminates human variability, delivers consistent data at scale, and enables advanced spatial analytics and digital twin creation. By applying semiconductor industry techniques like correlative metrology and virtual metrology to PCBs, ScanLabs can extract sub-micron precision data from standard IPC coupons, including 3D reconstructions, surface roughness measurements, and statistical process control metrics. The technology allows manufacturers to validate designs, predict performance, and close the feedback loop between fabrication and design—something previously impossible at scale. The reception at Apex, where ScanLabs made its soft launch, was overwhelmingly positive, with OEMs and fabricators eager to adopt the solution. Leeds emphasizes that automation isn't about replacing engineers but empowering them with better data. He critiques the overhyped narrative around AI in PCB design, arguing that LLMs lack spatial reasoning and cannot replace domain expertise. Looking ahead, he advocates for a community-driven effort to standardize metrology data formats—potentially through IPC—to enable seamless integration with design and simulation tools like Altium, ANSYS, and SolidWorks. The goal is to close the loop between physical manufacturing and digital design, making PCB innovation faster, more reliable, and data-driven.
The PCB industry faces a critical metrology gap: manual, inconsistent microsectioning limits quality assurance and innovation in high-reliability sectors.
ScanLabs has built a fully automated system that serially grinds, images, and analyzes IPC coupons every 6 minutes, enabling high-throughput, consistent, and data-rich validation.
By applying semiconductor-level techniques like correlative metrology and virtual metrology, ScanLabs extracts 3D spatial data, surface roughness, and statistical insights from standard micrographs.
The technology enables digital twins of PCBs, allowing designers to validate their models against as-built reality and improve future designs.
There is a strong opportunity to standardize metrology data formats through IPC to close the feedback loop between manufacturing and design tools.
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The Metrology Gap in High-Reliability PCBs
“You would even think that like in a high reliability industry, like, you know, defense aerospace, even medical automotive, you know, those kinds of industries, that there would be a willingness by somebody right to invest in building these solutions. I'm just a little bit surprised that like the lack of investment has is really that bad.”
Introducing ScanLabs: Automation for PCB Microsectioning
Jeffrey explains the founding of ScanLabs and how it emerged from his consulting work with Leeds Engineering. The company’s mission is to solve the third-party lab bottleneck by building a fully automated, serialized microsectioning system that eliminates human error and delivers scalable, high-fidelity data.
From Semiconductor to PCB: Borrowing the Blueprint
“When you look at what were doing, what materials are we constrained to? We have different materials than what they had, but physics doesn't change, right? Like it's not gonna be drastically different, but it gives us a blueprint or at least a path to start following.”
How ScanLabs’ System Works: Automation, Data, and Digital Twins
“We can look at tilt and rotation of the microvia as well. So what was the top half of the microvia doing? What was the body of the microvia doing? We can look at glass weave contact with the microvia. So how much glass and resin is in contact with it.”
The Impact of Labor Shortages and Automation
Jeffrey discusses how the aging workforce and lack of skilled operators are compounding the metrology problem. Automation isn’t just about speed—it’s about preserving tribal knowledge and enabling companies to scale without relying on rare experts.
“Using an LLM to design PCBs is like using a dictionary to make a ham sandwich. Okay, I like it. Yeah, well, I mean, like you said though, there's no spatial awareness other than what can be defined numerically.”
“When you look at what were doing, what materials are we constrained to? We have different materials than what they had, but physics doesn't change, right? Like it's not gonna be drastically different, but it gives us a blueprint or at least a path to start following.”
“We need to have a bigger discussion saying, where is our industry going to go? And do we want to continue using micrographs? Like I've got my opinion of this, but like what's the data say? What are some new techniques?”
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Jeffrey Leeds
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ScanLabs
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Zach Peterson
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IPC
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Apex
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LLM
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SEM
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Allied Hightech
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FIBSEM
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Altium
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