High-Speed Interconnects for AI & Physical AI with Samtec

OnTrack: The PCB Design Podcast39mApril 28, 2026

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In this episode of OnTrack: The PCB Design Podcast, host Zach Peterson welcomes Matt Burns, Director of Technical Marketing at Samtec, to discuss the evolving role of high-speed interconnects in modern electronics, particularly in the context of AI and physical AI. The conversation explores how interconnects have shifted from being an afterthought in PCB design to a critical, early-stage architectural consideration—especially in data centers and AI systems. Matt highlights Samtec’s advanced connector solutions like SciFly LP, Accelerate HP, and SciFly HD, which enable near-chip and co-packaged interconnects for 112G, 224G, and emerging 448G data rates. These innovations support signal integrity, reduce loss by 5–6 dB through co-packaged designs, and allow seamless transitions between copper and optical connectivity. The discussion also extends to embedded systems, where Samtec is adapting data center advancements—like smaller, denser connectors and optimized signal breakout—to enable higher performance in ComHPC and other open standards, even as embedded applications lag behind by 2–3 generations. Finally, Matt envisions physical AI as a convergence of AI, robotics, and embedded computing, driving demand for compact, flexible, and high-density interconnect solutions that can fit into unconventional form factors, especially in humanoid robotics. Key takeaways include: 1) Interconnects must be designed early in the system architecture, not as an afterthought; 2) Co-packaged copper and optics offer significant signal integrity improvements (5–6 dB loss reduction) over near-chip solutions; 3) Embedded systems are adopting data center interconnect innovations at a slower pace but are rapidly catching up; 4) The rise of physical AI and robotics demands smaller, more flexible interconnects; 5) Samtec’s focus on smaller pitches (down to 0.5mm), open standards, and multi-source compatibility enables scalability across AI, networking, and embedded applications. The overall tone is forward-looking, optimistic, and deeply technical, emphasizing innovation, adaptability, and the critical role of interconnects in enabling next-gen electronics.

Key Takeaways
1

Interconnects must be selected early in the design cycle, not as an afterthought, especially for high-speed AI and data center systems.

2

Co-packaged interconnects (copper and optics) reduce signal loss by 5–6 dB compared to near-chip solutions, significantly improving signal integrity.

3

Samtec’s SciFly HD and Accelerate HP connectors support 112G, 224G, and 448G data rates with high-density, substrate-based architectures.

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Embedded systems are adopting high-speed interconnect innovations from data centers, with standards like ComHPC enabling PCI-5 and PCI-6 performance.

5

Physical AI is driving demand for compact, flexible, and high-density interconnects, especially in robotics and edge AI devices.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introducing Physical AI and the Role of Interconnects

So with physical AI, what kind of system architectures are possible with Samtech products?

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2:15
5 min

Matt Burns’ Journey and the Evolution of Interconnect Design

Matt Burns shares his personal journey into electronics, from dismantling household devices as a child to earning a degree in electrical engineering. He reflects on how the design paradigm has shifted from treating connectors as an afterthought to a core architectural element.

7:30
10 min

The Shift from Afterthought to Architectural Core

You know, that's the biggest trend is, you know, that design paradigm of 10, 15, 20, 25 years ago worrying about the connector at the end. In some instances, you still do that, right?

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17:00
11 min

High-Speed Interconnects for 112G, 224G, and 448G Systems

We can route that copper to the front panel using an OSFP cage, or we can route copper to the backplane using some of our 224 backplane interconnect.

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27:30
12 min

Co-Packaged Interconnects and Signal Integrity Gains

In Samtech's world, we've noticed a five to six dB improvement using the co-package copper or co-package optics interconnect over the near package copper, near package interconnect.

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High-Impact Quotes
In Samtech's world, we've noticed a five to six dB improvement using the co-package copper or co-package optics interconnect over the near package copper, near package interconnect.
Matt Burns33:30
Viral: 90.0
Physical AI, the cross between physical AI and robotics. right we're seeing humanoid robotics you know it's just expanding like crazy
Matt Burns36:13
Viral: 85.0
We can route that copper to the front panel using an OSFP cage, or we can route copper to the backplane using some of our 224 backplane interconnect.
Matt Burns14:54
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Zach Peterson

Guest

Matt Burns
Topics Discussed
High-Speed Interconnects95%Physical AI90%Co-Packaged Interconnects85%AI Data Center Architecture85%Signal Integrity80%Connector Design Early in the Cycle80%Embedded Systems75%Robotics and AI Integration70%
People & Brands

Samtec

organization

25xPositive

Matt Burns

person

18xPositive

Zach Peterson

person

15xPositive

SciFly HD

product

6xPositive

TwinX Cable

product

5xPositive

Accelerate HP

product

5xPositive

ComHPC

other

4xPositive

SciFly LP

product

4xPositive

NVIDIA

organization

3xPositive

PCI-SIG

organization

3xNeutral

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