Downstream: Europe’s Ancient Myths, Current Crises & Future Possibilities w/ Roderick Beaton
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In this episode of Novara Media's Downstream, host discusses Roderick Beaton's new book, 'Europe: A New History,' which traces the continent's identity from ancient Greece through to the present. Beaton argues that Europe is not defined by race, territory, or religion, but by a shared cultural and historical narrative—what he calls 'the story of Europe.' He explores how the boundary between Europe and Asia was first drawn by the Greeks at the Hellespont, a line later weaponized by Herodotus to frame the Persian Wars as a continental clash. The conversation delves into the Roman Empire's role in unifying Europe through conquest and law, the failure of later emperors like Charles V to replicate that unity, and the enduring legacy of Roman ideas in modern institutions like the U.S. Capitol. Beaton examines how Christianity and Islam shaped Europe’s self-definition, particularly through the Reconquista and the Ottoman threat, and how the Inquisition’s persecution of Jews and Muslims reveals the deep entanglement of religion and race in European identity. He also reflects on Russia’s ambiguous status—historically European in culture but geographically and ideologically contested—and how Putin’s narrative of Ukraine as a Russian invention challenges Europe’s borders. Ultimately, Beaton calls for a unified European voice, including a European army and possibly a nuclear deterrent, to resist domination by either America or Russia in an age of multipolarity.
Europe is defined not by race or territory, but by shared history, culture, and the story we tell about ourselves.
The idea of Europe as a distinct continent was invented by Herodotus to frame the Persian Wars as a clash of civilizations.
The Roman Empire’s success came not just from military might but from integrating conquered peoples into a shared legal and cultural framework.
Religious identity—especially Christianity and Islam—has been central to defining Europe’s boundaries and internal conflicts.
The Inquisition and the Reconquista reveal how European identity has often been built on exclusion and persecution of 'others.'
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Defining Europe: Beyond Race and Religion
“Europeans now, as in the past, at the most basic level must surely be defined as all those people who have made their home in Europe wherever they may have come from or however long ago their ancestors arrived.”
Herodotus and the Birth of the Europe-Asia Divide
“In telling the story that way, Herodotus quite deliberately weaponized a geographical term that was purely geographical until those days and gave it a geopolitical sense.”
The Roman Empire: Unity Through Conquest and Law
“The Romans had to reverse engineer from a Phoenician ship to work out how do you make... That's right, because they never had a navy and they had to invent one more or less in order to take on the Carthaginian.”
The Myth of the 'Barbarian' and the Fall of Rome
Beaton discusses how the Roman Empire collapsed not from external invasion alone, but from internal migration—specifically the Goths' mass movement across the Danube. He draws parallels to modern migration crises.
Alexander the Great: Conqueror or Psychopath?
Beaton offers a critical view of Alexander the Great, questioning his legacy as a hero and suggesting he was a psychopath who believed he was a god. He contrasts Alexander’s rule with the Roman model of integration.
“The way I see the world at the moment, I think, yes, we ought to have a European army. I even would dare to say I think we ought to have a European nuclear deterrent.”
“In telling the story that way, Herodotus quite deliberately weaponized a geographical term that was purely geographical until those days and gave it a geopolitical sense.”
“Europeans now, as in the past, at the most basic level must surely be defined as all those people who have made their home in Europe wherever they may have come from or however long ago their ancestors arrived.”
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