SLAM, scam, thank you ma’am.

Hacking Humans51mApril 23, 2026

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In this episode of Hacking Humans, hosts Dave Bittner, Joe Kerrigan, and guest Michelle Kellerman explore the evolving landscape of social engineering scams, focusing on both preventative strategies and systemic shifts in accountability. The episode opens with a lighthearted segment about Joe’s chicken coop roof dilemma, transitioning into a serious discussion on romance scams, emphasizing the importance of pre-emptive 'inoculation' to protect vulnerable individuals. Michelle introduces the SLAM method—a phishing awareness framework standing for Sender, Links, Attachments, and Message—as a practical tool for identifying deceptive emails. She then presents a compelling thesis: the tide may be turning in the fight against scams, as financial institutions like UK banks are beginning to push liability upstream to telecom and social media platforms, mirroring the EMV chip liability shift in credit card fraud. This momentum is fueled by massive fraud losses, AI-driven vulnerability discovery (via Anthropic’s Mythos), and growing legal pressure on platforms like Facebook, which profit from fraudulent advertising. The episode closes with a real-world case of cousins running a nationwide rental scam using fake listings and discriminatory cancellations, highlighting how even trusted platforms like Airbnb are complicit in enabling fraud. The hosts reflect on the broader implications of consumer data exploitation and the need for systemic change, ending with a 'Catch of the Day' illustrating a subtle, emotionally manipulative scam via a vague text message.

Key Takeaways
1

Use the SLAM method (Sender, Links, Attachments, Message) to proactively identify phishing attempts before they succeed.

2

Pre-emptive education ('inoculation') is far more effective than trying to rescue someone mid-scam.

3

Banks are beginning to push liability for fraud upstream to social media and telecom companies, signaling a potential shift in accountability.

4

Platforms like Facebook profit from fraudulent ads, and legal pressure (e.g., product liability suits) may soon force them to act.

5

AI tools like Anthropic’s Mythos can rapidly identify software vulnerabilities, but the resulting backlog of fixes is a growing challenge.

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Chapters
0:00
4 min

Welcome & Chicken Coop Confessions

The hosts kick off the episode with light banter, including Joe’s humorous update on his chicken coop’s opaque roof issue, setting a casual tone before diving into serious topics.

4:00
6 min

Romance Scam Warning & Inoculation

If you can warn people about these things before they happen, it's a lot easier to convince someone not to be scammed than to get them out of the scam while they're in the middle of it.

Highlight
10:00
14 min

Introducing the SLAM Method for Phishing Awareness

The SLAM method is pretty easy to remember. And again, it's a decent one to send around to your colleagues, to your friends, that sort of thing.

Highlight
24:00
20 min

The Turning Tide: From EMV to Scam Liability

Banks are going to start forcing the issue as opposed to just, oh, it sucks for the little guy. Banks now have a problem.

Highlight
44:00
10 min

The Rental Scam & Platform Complicity

Joe details a 10-year nationwide rental scam by two cousins who used fake listings, overbooking, and discriminatory cancellations on Airbnb and Vrbo. The episode critiques platform complacency, with Airbnb’s corporate response described as dismissive, while prosecutors allege racial bias in cancellations.

High-Impact Quotes
Banks are going to start forcing the issue as opposed to just, oh, it sucks for the little guy. Banks now have a problem.
Michelle Kellerman22:28
Viral: 90.0
If you can warn people about these things before they happen, it's a lot easier to convince someone not to be scammed than to get them out of the scam while they're in the middle of it.
Michelle Kellerman4:33
Viral: 85.0
We're seeing just a critical mass of just how much volume is, it's not supported anymore.
Michelle Kellerman26:47
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Dave BittnerJoe Kerrigan

Guest

Michelle Kellerman
Topics Discussed
phishing awareness95%liability shift in fraud92%social engineering scams90%platform accountability88%romance scams85%online rental fraud82%AI in cybersecurity80%consumer data privacy75%
People & Brands

Dave Bittner

person

20xPositive

Joe Kerrigan

person

18xPositive

Michelle Kellerman

person

15xPositive

SLAM method

other

8xPositive

Facebook

organization

7xNegative

Airbnb

organization

6xNegative

Mythos

product

5xPositive

EMV chips

other

4xPositive

ThreatLocker

organization

4xPositive

Meta

organization

4xNegative

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