388: The History of Secret Service Code Names
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The Secret Service's presidential codenames—far from being truly secret—reveal a quirky, often absurd tradition that blends personal identity, regional pride, and unintentional irony. From Edith Wilson’s baffling 'Grandma' to Lyndon B. Johnson’s uninspired 'Volunteer' and Donald Trump’s on-the-nose 'Mogul,' these names expose how whimsy and symbolism collide in the highest echelons of power. The episode dissects the origins of these codenames, tracing them back to Harry Truman’s 1945 'General' and exploring how first ladies like Eleanor Roosevelt earned 'Rover' for her wartime travels, while others like Lady Bird Johnson were saddled with names that felt more like nicknames than security code. The real shocker? These names are rarely kept confidential—leaked through government filings, overheard agents, or even leaked by the presidents themselves. The episode doesn’t just chronicle the list; it critiques the culture behind it: a system where a leader’s identity is reduced to a word that might sound cool to a bureaucrat but feels deeply inadequate to the person it’s meant to protect. And when the codename is as tone-deaf as 'Grandma' or as cringey as 'Mogul,' it’s not just a joke—it’s a reflection of the absurdity of power itself.
Secret Service codenames are chosen from a pre-approved list and often reflect personal, regional, or symbolic connections—not security necessity.
Edith Wilson’s codename 'Grandma' was deeply inappropriate given her age and status, highlighting how arbitrary and sometimes demeaning these names can be.
Presidents like Jimmy Carter changed their codenames mid-term, proving that even in security, personal preference matters.
The name 'Rover' for Eleanor Roosevelt was fittingly earned through her extensive wartime travels, making it one of the most meaningful codenames in history.
Donald Trump’s 'Mogul' codename, while predictable, aligns with his brand—proving that even in security, ego and image dominate.
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The Mystery of Presidential Codenames
Introduction to the episode's focus: the Secret Service codenames of U.S. presidents and their families, blending history, humor, and security culture.
Origins of the Codename Tradition
The tradition began in 1945 with Harry Truman’s 'General,' though agents had used names for first ladies like Edith Wilson and Eleanor Roosevelt earlier.
The Case of Edith Wilson: 'Grandma'?
“43 is a very sexy and very young and very amazing age. Right? Right. Yes, I agree with what Rebecca says. Yes. OK, thank you.”
Eleanor Roosevelt and the 'Rover' Legacy
Eleanor Roosevelt earned 'Rover' for her extensive wartime travels, though she suspected her husband influenced the choice—adding a layer of personal politics.
“The documentary was critically panned, as you probably know, with a 10% on Rotten Tomatoes. In Owen Gleiberman's review from Variety, he called Melania a, quote, shameless infomercial.”
“43 is a very sexy and very young and very amazing age. Right? Right. Yes, I agree with what Rebecca says. Yes. OK, thank you.”
“You're a big Clinton boy. It's possibly a reference to him being an Eagle Scout, but that is not confirmed.”
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