Remembering symphony conductor Michael Tilson Thomas
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This episode of Fresh Air pays tribute to Michael Tilson Thomas, the renowned conductor, composer, and educator who passed away at age 81 after a battle with brain cancer. The program features two archival interviews with Terry Gross from 1995 and 2012, offering deep insight into Thomas’s life, artistic philosophy, and legacy. Born into a family of Yiddish theater luminaries—his paternal grandparents Boris and Bessie Tomaszewski—Thomas reflects on how their artistic legacy shaped his worldview and musical identity. He recounts growing up immersed in performance, learning from his grandmother’s wisdom about reaching every audience member, even those in the highest balcony. His career spanned decades as conductor of the San Francisco Symphony, creator of the PBS series *Keeping Score*, and composer of emotionally resonant works like *From the Diary of Anne Frank*, inspired by Audrey Hepburn. Thomas also shares formative experiences with Leonard Bernstein, James Brown, and his own family’s complex relationship with fame and identity. The episode underscores his belief in music as a spiritual, communal act and his commitment to making classical music accessible and deeply human.
Music should be approached with a 'musical Hippocratic oath'—prioritizing love for music above all else.
The most powerful performances reach even the farthest audience members, regardless of where they sit.
Conducting is like directing theater—shaping ensemble energy, clarity, and emotional risk.
Legacy is not just about fame, but about how deeply one’s work connects across generations.
True artistic freedom comes from being prepared, present, and emotionally committed.
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Introduction and Tribute to Michael Tilson Thomas
David Bianculli opens the episode with a tribute to Michael Tilson Thomas, announcing his passing at age 81 after battling brain cancer. The episode sets a reflective tone, honoring Thomas’s legacy as conductor, composer, and advocate for music education.
Early Life and Family Legacy in Yiddish Theater
“She said, look up, Michela, look up. What do you see? Far, far away. And I said, well, I see lights. And she said, look further up and said, way up there. You see that light up there? It says exit.”
The Art of Conducting: Director, Mentor, and Listener
“The conductor is much more like a director in the theater. It's very clear to me... the musicians are the ones who are actually doing the playing and I am there to help them focus and clarify what they need to do.”
Creating *Keeping Score* and Making Classical Music Accessible
“It's taken me nearly 30 years to get my head around it and understand it, feel comfortable with it. This score is a messy record of all the questions I asked and the answers I searched for.”
From the Diary of Anne Frank: A Musical Tribute
Thomas recounts composing *From the Diary of Anne Frank*, inspired by Audrey Hepburn’s connection to the Holocaust. He describes the emotional power of Hepburn’s recitation and the piece’s ability to convey hope amid suffering.
“Little girl, my ass, I'm the star here. If anybody's being taken in, it's me.”
“She said, look up, Michela, look up. What do you see? Far, far away. And I said, well, I see lights. And she said, look further up and said, way up there. You see that light up there? It says exit.”
“You have to love music as much as eating or sleeping or dreaming or all those other ings.”
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Bessie Tomaszewski
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Terry Gross
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Boris Tomaszewski
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Audrey Hepburn
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From the Diary of Anne Frank
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