Menachot 71 מנחות ע״א
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This episode of Daf Yomi by Darren Platzky explores Menachot 71, focusing on the halachic nuances surrounding the Omer offering and the permissibility of harvesting grain before Pesach. The discussion centers on the critical question of when a crop must be rooted to be considered valid for the Omer, with a key debate between Rabbi Yochanan (who interprets 'Kodem Lomar' as before the harvesting) and Rabbi Yossi (who sees it as before the bringing of the Omer). The episode delves into the meaning of 'Aviv' and 'Sadeh', analyzing how the Torah's language in Deuteronomy and Leviticus informs the requirement for rootedness. The host examines Rashi’s commentary, the significance of the term 'Sudni', and the practical implications for fields like the Beit HaShlachin, where drying conditions necessitated early harvesting despite the Omer prohibition. Additional topics include the permissibility of harvesting fast-growing crops for animal fodder, the concept of 'Peya' and 'Shikcha', and the legal status of fields divided by roads or natural features. The episode concludes with a detailed analysis of the machloket between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Meir regarding the consent of Chachamim for certain activities on Pesach, including grafting, reading Shema, and harvesting before the Omer.
The Omer can be brought from grain that has taken root before the Omer, even if only during the night before the offering.
The requirement for 'Aviv' (ripeness) is not absolute; even unripe grain with roots can be used for the Omer.
Fields like Beit HaShlachin, which are dry and prone to cracking, may be harvested before the Omer due to practical necessity.
Harvesting for animal fodder before the Omer is permitted, even if not for human consumption.
Peya (leaving corners of the field for the poor) applies only to grain, not vegetables, due to concerns about Ma'aser (tithing).
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The Omer and the Rooting Requirement
“If it was before the harvesting of the Omer, the harvesting of the Omer was the night before. It means we would have to have rooted already before you went out and did the harvesting.”
Understanding 'Aviv' and 'Sadeh' in the Omer Context
The host analyzes the Torah's use of 'Aviv' and 'Sadeh' to determine the minimum requirements for the Omer. Rashi’s interpretation that 'Sadeh' only begins when a plant is rooted is examined, along with the implications of the term 'Sudni' and its possible connection to a historical brewer. The discussion highlights how even minimal growth can qualify as 'Sadeh' if rooted.
Exceptions: The Beit HaShlachin and Practical Necessity
“If you leave it there once it's really good rap, Azra leibud. Okay? It's going to become wasted.”
Harvesting for Animals and the Concept of Peya
“If you take payah off, if you leave a field untied with vegetables that you aren't bent to, what's happening? You're basically gathering in less than what you should be and you're taking Truman Maser on less than what you should be.”
The Machloket of Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Meir on Consent
“Elu va'elu shelo berat son hachamim. He says, but they're all t'selo berat son hachamim. The only difference is that al shloshah michubi adam o shalom michubi adam.”
“Elu va'elu shelo berat son hachamim. He says, but they're all t'selo berat son hachamim. The only difference is that al shloshah michubi adam o shalom michubi adam.”
“If it was before the harvesting of the Omer, the harvesting of the Omer was the night before. It means we would have to have rooted already before you went out and did the harvesting.”
“If you take payah off, if you leave a field untied with vegetables that you aren't bent to, what's happening? You're basically gathering in less than what you should be and you're taking Truman Maser on less than what you should be.”
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Darren Platzky
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Omer
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Rashi
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Chachamim
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Rabbi Yehuda
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Pesach
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Rabbi Meir
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Menachot
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Peya
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Korban HaOmer
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