Menachot 70 מנחות ע
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This episode of Daf Yomi by Darren Platzky explores Menachot 70, focusing on intricate halachic debates surrounding the status of truma (tithes) when produce is replanted after initial tithing. The discussion centers on whether the original tithed portion (ikar) retains its status when replanted, or if the new growth becomes a completely separate entity requiring new tithing. The host, Darren Platzky, walks through a series of complex Talmudic arguments involving Rava, Abaya, and various rishonim, including Rashi and Ilfa, examining cases like planting seeds in pots, growing onions and potatoes from existing bulbs, and the status of eggs inside a dead kosher bird. A key theme is the distinction between physical continuity and halachic separation—whether something remains part of its original batch or becomes a new entity. The episode also touches on the five grains that can make matzah, the laws of chadash (new grain), and the timing of the Omer offering, with a lively discussion on whether millet and rice qualify as chalavim. The host uses vivid analogies and humor to clarify abstract concepts, making the deep Talmudic reasoning accessible to a broad audience.
When tithed produce is replanted, the halachic status of the original tithed portion (ikar) is debated: does it retain its tithed status or become a new entity requiring new tithing?
The Gemara distinguishes between seeds that decompose (like wheat) and those that remain intact (like onions or potatoes), which affects whether the original tithing applies to the new growth.
Eggs inside a dead kosher bird are considered part of the bird’s body and thus transmit tumah (impurity) if eaten, demonstrating that internal, attached parts can be treated as part of the whole.
Only five grains—wheat, barley, spelt, rye, and oats—are considered valid for making matzah and subject to the laws of chadash; millet and rice are excluded because they don’t rise when wet.
The laws of chadash depend on whether the grain took root before the Omer offering, with differing opinions between Rabbi Yossi and Rabbeinu Yonah on the exact timing of when the prohibition ends.
The Replanting Dilemma: Does Tithed Produce Retain Its Status?
“When you plant a regular seed, the seed decomposes. It's gone. But here, the original seed didn't disappear. It's all there. And it grew on top of it. That's my question.”
Rashi and the Case of the Onion: Continuity vs. Separation
The discussion shifts to Rashi’s explanation of why planting onions or potatoes differs from planting seeds. The host highlights that unlike seeds, these bulbs remain intact and grow from the original, raising questions about whether the original tithing applies to the new crop.
The Egg in the Dead Bird: A Case of Internal Attachment
“The eggs inside the body are considered part of the body. And mi bachot slaysh ala out! Ein metamin begadim abetabliya.”
The Five Grains and the Laws of Chadash
The episode explores which grains qualify for matzah and the laws of chadash (new grain). The host clarifies that only wheat, barley, spelt, rye, and oats are valid, while millet and rice are excluded because they don’t rise when wet and thus can’t become chametz.
Timing the Omer: When Does Chadash Become Permissible?
The final section examines the debate between Rabbi Yossi and Rabbeinu Yonah on when the prohibition of chadash ends—whether it’s at the time of the Omer offering (night) or the following morning. The host sets up the next day’s discussion on this critical timing issue.
“The eggs inside the body are considered part of the body. And mi bachot slaysh ala out! Ein metamin begadim abetabliya.”
“When you plant a regular seed, the seed decomposes. It's gone. But here, the original seed didn't disappear. It's all there. And it grew on top of it. That's my question.”
“I in my life always thought that vegetarians could eat fish they could eat eggs. Now I understand that those people who do... Those who eat fish are not vegetarians.”
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Darren Platzky
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Truma
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Rashi
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Chadash
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Abaya
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Omer
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Matzah
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Tumah
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Rava
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Millet
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