Menachos Daf 72 - מנחות דף עב - March 24, 2026
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This episode of Daf with Shaul C. Greenwald explores Daf Ayon Beis of Masechet Menachot, focusing on the halachic intricacies surrounding the harvesting of grain for the Korban Omer. The discussion centers on when and how one may harvest grain prior to the mandated Omer offering, particularly in cases involving young trees, space constraints for learning, or the need for seating during prayer. The Gemara examines whether such harvests are permitted as a 'k'tsiyah mitzvah'—a minor act of mitzvah that justifies harvesting even if it's not the ideal time. A central debate unfolds around whether the harvesting of the Omer grain must occur at night (as a mitzvah performed at its proper time) or if it can be done during the day, especially on Shabbos. The episode delves into the opinions of Rabbanan, Rabbi Shimon, Rabbi Kiva, and Rabbi Shmuel, analyzing how their views on timing, Shabbos, and the concept of 'chavivah mitzvah b'shita' (the belovedness of performing a mitzvah at its proper time) shape the halachic conclusions. The discussion also touches on the broader principle that certain mitzvot, like the Omer, are 'dei cheshabbos'—permitted on Shabbos—while others are not, and how this is derived from specific verses and logical inferences. The episode concludes with a transition into the seventh perek, introducing the list of ten types of Minchot that require k'mitzah (a handful of flour), and the debate over whether a minchas ma'afetana counts as one or three types based on the choice between chalas and rikikin.
Harvesting grain for the Omer is permitted even during the day if it serves a mitzvah need, such as creating space for learning or prayer.
The mitzvah of Ksir HaOmer (harvesting the Omer grain) is considered 'dei cheshabbos'—permitted on Shabbos—based on the verse 'takriv' and the principle of 'chavivah mitzvah b'shita'.
Rabbi Shimon holds that Ksir HaOmer can be done during the day, even though it's ideally done at night, because the mitzvah is beloved when performed at its proper time.
The Gemara debates whether the halacha follows Rabbi Kiva (who limits Shabbos permissibility to acts that couldn't be done before Shabbos) or Rabbi Shmuel (who allows it even if it could have been done earlier).
The list of ten Minchot requiring k'mitzah includes both types of dough (chalas and rikikin), but a minchas ma'afetana is counted as only two types, not three, despite the option to mix chalas and rikikin.
Harvesting Grain for Mitzvah Needs: Trees, Learning, and Prayer
“If you don't cut the grain, then there will be an issue of clayim as it's also to grow grain next to trees.”
The Mitzvah of Ksir HaOmer and Its Permissibility on Shabbos
“The Torah teaches us that the only thing that has to be racist is only your harvest. However, it's muttered to harvest grain for a Dva Mitzvah.”
Rabbi Shimon vs. Rabbi Kiva: Timing and Shabbos Permissibility
“Even though one could perform the mitzvah later on, it would still be day Shabbos as Rabbi Rabbi Shimon B'shayter.”
The List of Ten Minchot and the Debate on Minchas Ma'afetana
The episode transitions into the seventh perek, introducing the list of ten types of Minchot that require k'mitzah. The Gemara debates whether a minchas ma'afetana (a flour offering with oil and frankincense) counts as one or three types, depending on whether one can mix chalas and rikikin. The final ruling is that it counts as two types, not three.
“Even though one could perform the mitzvah later on, it would still be day Shabbos as Rabbi Rabbi Shimon B'shayter.”
“Even though one could perform the mitzvah later on, it would still be day Shabbos as Rabbi Rabbi Shimon B'shayter.”
“The Torah teaches us that the only thing that has to be racist is only your harvest. However, it's muttered to harvest grain for a Dva Mitzvah.”
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Gemara
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Korban Omer
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Mishnah
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Masechet Menachot
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Rashi
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Pasuk
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Rabbi Shimon
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Rebbe Lezer Reb Shimon
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Rabbi Kiva
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Ksir HaOmer
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