Menachos Daf 68 - מנחות דף סח - March 20, 2026
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This episode of Daf with Shaul C. Greenwald explores Menachos Daf 68, focusing on the halachic intricacies surrounding the consumption of chadash (new grain) and the timing of the Korban Omer. The discussion centers on a key dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and the Chachamim regarding when one may begin eating new grain after the Omer offering. The Gemara examines whether the prohibition is biblical or rabbinic, and how it applies in different contexts—particularly in the absence of the Beis HaMikdash. A major theme is the distinction between the time of the Mikdash and the post-destruction era, with Rav Shmuel and Rav Papa debating whether one can eat chadash from the morning of the 16th of Nisan in Chutz La'Aretz. The episode also delves into the role of Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Yehudah ben Bava in establishing takanos, and the implications of these rulings on the status of grain and offerings. The discussion culminates in a fascinating story about Rabbi Yehuda ben Nchemia, whose joy at solving a complex halachic question led to a prophecy of his early passing, underscoring the spiritual weight of Torah scholarship. Key takeaways include: (1) The prohibition of chadash is biblical only when the Beis HaMikdash stands; otherwise, it is rabbinic. (2) In Chutz La'Aretz, the custom is to wait until the 17th of Nisan to eat chadash, based on rabbinic takanah. (3) The Korban Omer must be brought from the new grain of the year, and only after this offering can the new grain be consumed. (4) The Shtei HaLechem on Shavuos requires the first of the new grain, and this requirement is not satisfied by grain grown between the Omer and Shavuos. (5) The Gemara uses the concept of 'first of the year' (bikurim) to determine eligibility for offerings, emphasizing the sanctity of timing in sacrificial service. (6) The episode highlights the tension between logical consistency and halachic tradition, showing how rabbis reconcile apparent contradictions through deep textual analysis. (7) The story of Rabbi Yehuda ben Nchemia serves as a powerful reminder of the spiritual consequences of intellectual pride and joy in Torah.
The prohibition of chadash is biblical only when the Beis HaMikdash stands; otherwise, it is rabbinic.
In Chutz La'Aretz, one waits until the 17th of Nisan to eat chadash, based on a rabbinic takanah.
The Korban Omer must be brought from the new grain of the year, and only after this offering can the new grain be consumed.
The Shtei HaLechem on Shavuos requires the first of the new grain, and this requirement is not satisfied by grain grown between the Omer and Shavuos.
The concept of 'first of the year' (bikurim) is crucial for determining eligibility for sacrificial offerings.
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Introduction to the Mishnah and the Dispute Between Rabbi Yehuda and Chachamim
The episode begins with a review of the Mishnah on Menachos 68, focusing on the dispute between Rabbi Yehuda and the Chachamim regarding the timing of eating chadash. The Gemara introduces the core question: when may one begin consuming new grain after the Omer offering?
The Role of the Beis HaMikdash in the Prohibition of Chadash
The Gemara explores whether the prohibition of chadash is biblical or rabbinic, depending on the presence of the Beis HaMikdash. Rav Shmuel and Rav Papa debate the timing of when chadash may be eaten in Chutz La'Aretz, with implications for the status of grain and offerings.
The Takana of Rabban Gamliel and the Status of Chadash in the Post-Mikdash Era
The episode examines the takanah of Rabban Gamliel and Rabbi Yehudah ben Bava, who established that one may not eat chadash until after the Omer is brought, even in the absence of the Mikdash. The Gemara discusses the logic behind this ruling and its implications for the timing of grain consumption.
The Story of Rabbi Yehuda ben Nchemia and the Consequences of Intellectual Pride
“And Rebbe Kiva said to Yehuda B'Nechemya, Yehuda Tzavu Panecha, Shehshafte Zakein, Timani, Im Tarech Yomim, although you found a proper teret, and a proper response to Reb Tafin's question. However, by showing your joy you will be in Vazir Reb Tafin and therefore I would be surprised if you will live out your year and you will live until next year.”
The Final Halachic Rulings on the Shtei HaLechem and the Korban Omer
The Gemara concludes with a detailed analysis of the requirements for the Shtei HaLechem and the Korban Omer, emphasizing that the grain used must be the first of the year's crop and that grain grown between the Omer and Shavuos cannot be used for these offerings.
“And Rebbe Kiva said to Yehuda B'Nechemya, Yehuda Tzavu Panecha, Shehshafte Zakein, Timani, Im Tarech Yomim, although you found a proper teret, and a proper response to Reb Tafin's question. However, by showing your joy you will be in Vazir Reb Tafin and therefore I would be surprised if you will live out your year and you will live until next year.”
“The Torah also means to teach us that it has to be brought from the first chitim that are brought on the Mizbeach this year.”
“The Gemara responds that the Chiddush Reb Nachma Yitzchak is, that Ma'ur Temer hasem hudotum hachlalei tzahedet, avul hachadloi hutum hachlalei loi, that one would have thought that it's only been a Gaya Tfua without...”
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Rav Shmuel
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Rav Papa
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