Vessel Bike Project’s Ultra-Customizable High-Pivot Frames
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In this episode of Bikes & Big Ideas, host David Golay sits down with Jack Harrell, founder of the Vessel Bike Project, to explore his ultra-customizable, high-pivot steel full-suspension mountain bikes. Jack shares his journey from a personal project during the pandemic to building highly adjustable frames with tailored kinematics, geometry, and drivetrain options. He emphasizes his focus on optimizing anti-rise, leverage ratio, and suspension performance through extensive experimentation and data acquisition. The conversation dives into how adjustability—such as floating brake arms, modular bottom brackets, and multiple shock mounting holes—allows riders to fine-tune their bike’s behavior for different riding styles and terrain. Jack also discusses his philosophy on stiffness, compliance, and the importance of balancing dynamic geometry with rider preferences. Despite being a small-scale builder, he offers a compelling value proposition with a frame price around $3,200–$3,300, plus full build options. The episode concludes with practical insights into suspension setup, highlighting common mistakes like overly slow rebound and improper sag balance. Key takeaways include: 1) Custom kinematics like anti-rise and leverage ratio can be adjusted to match rider skill and terrain; 2) Modular design (bottom bracket, chainstay, shock holes) enables fine-tuning of geometry and performance; 3) Data acquisition helps diagnose suspension issues beyond basic metrics like sag; 4) Steel construction offers durability and compliance without sacrificing stiffness; 5) Riders should prioritize rebound speed and balance between front and rear suspension travel. Jack’s approach reflects a deep commitment to eliminating mechanical limitations so riders can perform at their best—no excuses.
Custom anti-rise and leverage ratio adjustments allow riders to tailor bike behavior to their skill level and terrain.
Modular bottom bracket and chainstay systems enable ±12mm reach adjustment and dynamic geometry tuning.
Rebound speed is often too slow—speeding it up can dramatically improve suspension performance and prevent packing.
Cumulative suspension travel (not just peak) is a key diagnostic tool for identifying imbalance in front/rear suspension performance.
Steel frames offer long-term durability, compliance, and a wide range of stiffness options without fatigue concerns.
Introduction to Vessel Bike Project
David Golay introduces the episode and guest Jack Harrell, founder of the Vessel Bike Project, highlighting the focus on ultra-customizable, high-pivot steel full-suspension bikes with advanced kinematic adjustability at an affordable price point.
Jack's Background and Origins
Jack shares his journey from a Cal Poly agriculture engineering student to an RC car racer, explaining how his early passion for optimizing equipment fueled his interest in bike suspension and kinematics.
Early Kinematic Experiments
Jack details his initial experiments with high pivots, anti-rise, anti-squat, and leverage ratio, including extreme setups like negative anti-rise, to understand how suspension dynamics affect bike feel and performance.
Evolution of Frame Design
Jack discusses how his early frame designs evolved from inefficient force distribution to a more force-efficient linkage-driven single pivot with a floating brake arm, improving stiffness and reducing mass.
Anti-Rise, Braking, and Turning Dynamics
“I think that's overlooked is the benefit of being able to turn your bike. I think at least people have the concept of high pivots only wanting to go straight... but with super high anti-rise, your fork doesn't preload properly, and you can't get the bike to turn.”
“I think that's overlooked is the benefit of being able to turn your bike. I think at least people have the concept of high pivots only wanting to go straight... but with super high anti-rise, your fork doesn't preload properly, and you can't get the bike to turn.”
“The goal was to make sure like you don't really have any excuses. That's kind of the, kind of the goal.”
“I think most people should speed up their rebound. If you can count how long it takes to come back, please speed it up.”
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