The $97 Training That Built Million-Dollar Coach Empires

Big Hitters with Larry Weidel49mMarch 31, 2026

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In this powerful episode of Big Hitters with Larry Weidel, guest Mitch Matthews shares the transformative journey that led him from a small-town Iowa bike shop to building a global coaching empire. At 14, Matthews was exposed to Schwinn’s elite selling school—a rare, immersive training program that instilled in him the power of active learning, listening, and structured development. That experience became the blueprint for his own training programs, which he began creating while in college to fill the void left when Schwinn discontinued its training. Matthews emphasizes that true mastery comes not from surface-level knowledge, but from deep curiosity, asking the right questions, and learning from those at the top of their fields—whether in retail, entrepreneurship, or leadership. He reveals how he built his business by reverse-engineering success, seeking out mentors, and investing in targeted, high-impact conversations rather than generic workshops. His core philosophy? Be interested, not interesting. The episode culminates in a call to action: Matthews offers a free $97 training course for listeners, encouraging them to turn their expertise into a business by applying the same principles of curiosity, iteration, and proximity to mastery. Key takeaways include: 1) The most powerful learning happens when you ask questions and listen deeply, not when you lecture; 2) Success isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about knowing where to find them; 3) The fastest path to mastery is not through endless courses, but through targeted, high-leverage conversations with experts; 4) True leadership is rooted in curiosity and genuine interest in others; 5) You don’t need to be a guru to start—just be willing to learn, iterate, and teach what you’ve mastered. Matthews’ story is a masterclass in entrepreneurship, personal development, and the quiet power of curiosity.

Key Takeaways
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Be interested, not interesting—genuine curiosity makes you the most compelling person in the room.

2

The fastest way to learn is not through courses, but through targeted conversations with experts who’ve already solved your problem.

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Success comes from reverse-engineering the top performers in your field, not from generic training.

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Mastery is built through iteration, not perfection—start small, test fast, adapt quickly.

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You don’t need to know everything—just know where to find the missing piece.

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2 min

The Power of Talking to People Who've Done It

One of the best ways to figure out how to do stuff is to talk to people who've done stuff.

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2:00
5 min

The Schwinn Selling School: A Life-Changing Experience

They held us as capable. Even though I walked in as a 14-year-old, everybody else in the room were bike shop owners... they looked at all of us as capable.

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7:00
8 min

From Bike Shop to Business: Building the First Training Program

I said, if it's crap, we'll only do it once. But if it's good, then maybe we'll do it more than once.

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15:00
10 min

The Core Lesson: Listen More, Tell Less

Listen more, tell less. And that's what we tried to instill right from the beginning.

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25:00
15 min

The Real Secret: Proximity to the Source

I only want to hear what the top person does. I don't want to hear how the guy who's great at meetings does quality of business.

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High-Impact Quotes
Be interested, not interesting. The interested person is always the most interesting person in the room.
Mitch Matthews47:50
Viral: 95.0
One of the best ways to figure out how to do stuff is to talk to people who've done stuff.
Larry Weidel0:00
Viral: 90.0
They held us as capable. Even though I walked in as a 14-year-old, everybody else in the room were bike shop owners... they looked at all of us as capable.
Mitch Matthews19:40
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Larry Weidel

Guest

Mitch Matthews
Topics Discussed
entrepreneurial journey95%coaching and mentorship90%curiosity and learning88%structured training programs85%business coaching82%prospecting and sales80%personal development75%leadership and influence70%
People & Brands

Mitch Matthews

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120xPositive

Larry Weidel

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85xPositive

Schwinn Selling School

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15xPositive

Dream Think Do

media

10xPositive

Marty Schwinn Cyclery

organization

8xPositive

Matthews Training International

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6xPositive

Sears

organization

5xNegative

Amazon

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4xNeutral

Jeff Bezos

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3xNeutral

Brendan Burchard

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2xPositive

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