The $97 Training That Built Million-Dollar Coach Empires
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In this powerful episode of Big Hitters with Larry Weidel, guest Mitch Matthews shares the transformative journey that led him from a small-town Iowa bike shop to building a global coaching empire. At 14, Matthews was exposed to Schwinn’s elite selling school—a rare, immersive training program that instilled in him the power of active learning, listening, and structured development. That experience became the blueprint for his own training programs, which he began creating while in college to fill the void left when Schwinn discontinued its training. Matthews emphasizes that true mastery comes not from surface-level knowledge, but from deep curiosity, asking the right questions, and learning from those at the top of their fields—whether in retail, entrepreneurship, or leadership. He reveals how he built his business by reverse-engineering success, seeking out mentors, and investing in targeted, high-impact conversations rather than generic workshops. His core philosophy? Be interested, not interesting. The episode culminates in a call to action: Matthews offers a free $97 training course for listeners, encouraging them to turn their expertise into a business by applying the same principles of curiosity, iteration, and proximity to mastery. Key takeaways include: 1) The most powerful learning happens when you ask questions and listen deeply, not when you lecture; 2) Success isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about knowing where to find them; 3) The fastest path to mastery is not through endless courses, but through targeted, high-leverage conversations with experts; 4) True leadership is rooted in curiosity and genuine interest in others; 5) You don’t need to be a guru to start—just be willing to learn, iterate, and teach what you’ve mastered. Matthews’ story is a masterclass in entrepreneurship, personal development, and the quiet power of curiosity.
Be interested, not interesting—genuine curiosity makes you the most compelling person in the room.
The fastest way to learn is not through courses, but through targeted conversations with experts who’ve already solved your problem.
Success comes from reverse-engineering the top performers in your field, not from generic training.
Mastery is built through iteration, not perfection—start small, test fast, adapt quickly.
You don’t need to know everything—just know where to find the missing piece.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Power of Talking to People Who've Done It
“One of the best ways to figure out how to do stuff is to talk to people who've done stuff.”
The Schwinn Selling School: A Life-Changing Experience
“They held us as capable. Even though I walked in as a 14-year-old, everybody else in the room were bike shop owners... they looked at all of us as capable.”
From Bike Shop to Business: Building the First Training Program
“I said, if it's crap, we'll only do it once. But if it's good, then maybe we'll do it more than once.”
The Core Lesson: Listen More, Tell Less
“Listen more, tell less. And that's what we tried to instill right from the beginning.”
The Real Secret: Proximity to the Source
“I only want to hear what the top person does. I don't want to hear how the guy who's great at meetings does quality of business.”
“Be interested, not interesting. The interested person is always the most interesting person in the room.”
“One of the best ways to figure out how to do stuff is to talk to people who've done stuff.”
“They held us as capable. Even though I walked in as a 14-year-old, everybody else in the room were bike shop owners... they looked at all of us as capable.”
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Mitch Matthews
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Larry Weidel
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Schwinn Selling School
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Dream Think Do
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Marty Schwinn Cyclery
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Matthews Training International
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Sears
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Amazon
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Jeff Bezos
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Brendan Burchard
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