Overturning Religious Precedent

Advisory Opinions1h 28mApril 23, 2026

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In this episode of Advisory Opinions, hosts Sarah Isger and David French explore a range of constitutional and institutional issues, beginning with the Supreme Court's grant of certiorari in a Colorado religious liberty case involving Catholic preschools seeking an exemption from the state’s non-discrimination requirements in its Universal Preschool Program. The discussion centers on whether Colorado’s policy—allowing exemptions for schools serving specific demographics like LGBTQ families or low-income children while denying one to Catholic schools—undermines the neutrality of its non-discrimination rule, potentially rendering Employment Division v. Smith inapplicable. The hosts debate whether this case could finally challenge the precedent of Smith, which limits religious exemptions unless the law is not neutral or generally applicable. They also examine the Fezzik Principle, a concept from Jesse Wegman suggesting the Court should care about public popularity to maintain legitimacy, arguing instead that the Court’s independence and institutional integrity matter more than polling. The conversation then turns to the professionalization of the Court, with a provocative suggestion that Senator Ted Cruz could be a valuable addition due to his legislative experience, though the hosts remain skeptical. Finally, they address practical advice for aspiring law students, recommending rigorous majors like math or philosophy, and reflect on the broader media and institutional bubbles that shape public perception of the Court. The episode closes with audience questions on ethics, the shadow docket, AI accountability, and the long-term legacy of decisions like Dobbs.

Key Takeaways
1

The Supreme Court’s refusal to overturn Employment Division v. Smith in the Colorado preschool case suggests the Court is not ready to fundamentally rework religious liberty doctrine.

2

Public opinion on Supreme Court rulings is often more aligned with the Court’s decisions than commonly assumed, challenging the narrative of widespread illegitimacy.

3

The Fezzik Principle—using credible threats to influence the Court—may be ineffective or counterproductive, as the Court’s legitimacy stems from independence, not popularity.

4

Diversity in judicial backgrounds, such as including former legislators like Ted Cruz, could bring valuable institutional balance, but may also risk politicizing the Court.

5

Undergraduate majors in math or philosophy offer strong preparation for law school by cultivating logical rigor and analytical depth.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Welcome to Denver and the Advisory Opinions Launch

The hosts kick off the episode live from the University of Denver, introducing the show and announcing the upcoming Advisory Opinions newsletter launching April 28th, with chapter headings, transcripts, and video content.

2:00
8 min

The Colorado Preschool Religious Liberty Case

This is more egregious than Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, which was a 9-0 case. So I keep waiting for the actual case that is going to put Employment Division v. Smith just squarely in the crosshairs.

Highlight
10:00
10 min

The Fezzik Principle and Supreme Court Legitimacy

The real test here is not whether the Court agrees with you all the time. The real test is whether it is independent and operating with integrity.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Ted Cruz and the Professionalization of the Supreme Court

If I had to say how I perceive Ted Cruz, it would be this potentially apocryphal French revolutionary quote. There go the people. I must follow them for I am their leader.

Highlight
30:00
10 min

Best Majors for Law School: Math, Philosophy, and the Pitfalls of Political Science

Sarah and David discuss the ideal undergraduate majors for aspiring law students, advocating for math and philosophy for their logical rigor, while warning against political science for its partisan framing and outdated content.

High-Impact Quotes
The jury is out. I mean, the jury's kind of in on its current popularity, but the long-term popularity I think will depend a lot on whether 50 years from now... the salient story of Dobbs is, is it A, unborn children are brought into the American family... or B, this was a blow against women's rights.
Sarah Isger131:30
Viral: 88.0
This is more egregious than Fulton v. City of Philadelphia, which was a 9-0 case. So I keep waiting for the actual case that is going to put Employment Division v. Smith just squarely in the crosshairs.
David French6:52
Viral: 85.0
The fact that it's ChatGBT and had the same influence on him that a real person would have had, does that mean there's no legal accountability? Or is there going to be legal accountability for the people who created the chatbot?
David French73:52
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Hosts

Sarah IsgerDavid French
Topics Discussed
Religious Liberty and Non-Discrimination Laws95%Supreme Court Legitimacy and Public Opinion90%Employment Division v. Smith Precedent88%Judicial Professionalization and Diversity85%Best Undergraduate Majors for Law School80%Media Consolidation and Institutional Bubbles78%Shadow Docket and Judicial Transparency75%AI and Legal Accountability72%
People & Brands

Supreme Court

organization

30xPositive

David French

person

15xPositive

Sarah Isger

person

12xPositive

Employment Division v. Smith

other

12xNeutral

Colorado

place

10xNeutral

Ted Cruz

person

10xMixed

Jesse Wegman

person

8xNeutral

Brown v. Board of Education

other

7xPositive

Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization

other

6xNeutral

Fulton v. City of Philadelphia

other

6xPositive

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