Trump’s ‘War Crimes’
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In this episode of Advisory Opinions, hosts Sarah Isger and David French explore the legal and ethical implications of Donald Trump's threatening rhetoric toward Iran, particularly his warnings of destroying civilian infrastructure—a potential crime against humanity. The discussion examines whether threats of war crimes can themselves constitute crimes under international law, concluding that while theoretically possible, prosecutions are nearly impossible in practice due to the lack of enforcement mechanisms and the dominance of power politics. The hosts contrast this with the historical precedent of post-war accountability, such as Nuremberg, and highlight the irony that international law only holds sway when enforced by military power. They also delve into the military's dilemma in following unlawful presidential orders, especially when the president threatens to commit crimes against humanity, emphasizing the lack of recourse for service members and the critical role of personal character in preserving constitutional order. The episode then shifts to the birthright citizenship case, analyzing the Supreme Court's use of legislative history versus original public meaning, with a sharp critique of conservative hypocrisy in invoking legislative intent while rejecting it in other contexts. Finally, the hosts tackle the legal liability of AI companies, arguing that despite the complexity and unpredictability of large language models, the creators remain legally responsible for their products' harmful outputs, drawing parallels to but also distinguishing the AI liability debate from gun manufacturer liability. The episode closes with Isger reflecting on the emotional weight of her new book launch, 'Last Branch Standing,' and the anxiety of public reception. Key takeaways include: 1) Threats of war crimes, while theoretically prosecutable, are rarely acted upon due to the realities of international power dynamics; 2) The U.S. military's obligation to follow orders is conditional on legality, but service members have no viable appeal path when the president issues unlawful commands; 3) Originalism should focus on public meaning, not legislative intent, to avoid manipulation; 4) AI companies cannot evade liability for their models' harmful outputs, even if they cannot predict them; 5) The UN’s effectiveness depends on the cooperation of great powers, especially the U.S.; 6) The legal system must evolve to keep pace with technological disruption; 7) Character and integrity in leadership are essential to preserving constitutional order; 8) Public perception of legal and moral responsibility must shift to hold powerful actors accountable, whether in government or tech.
Threats of war crimes are theoretically criminal under international law but are practically unenforceable due to power imbalances and lack of enforcement mechanisms.
Service members have a legal duty to refuse clearly illegal orders, but have no viable recourse when the president issues such orders, creating a constitutional crisis.
Originalism should focus on original public meaning, not legislative intent, to prevent manipulation and ensure consistency in constitutional interpretation.
AI companies remain legally liable for the harmful outputs of their models, regardless of unpredictability or lack of control.
The UN’s power is contingent on the cooperation of great powers; without U.S. leadership, it lacks real authority.
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Introduction and Book Launch Hype
The episode opens with hosts Sarah Isger and David French welcoming listeners and promoting Isger's new book, 'Last Branch Standing,' set for release on April 14th. They discuss her upcoming appearances on The View, Joe, and Bill Maher, and express excitement about the timing of the book's release, which coincides with the Supreme Court's alignment with the book's central thesis about the importance of the judiciary.
John Mulaney and the Supreme Court Argument Nerd Culture
“You've got to come out of the gate really hot. You have to say, uh, if it, uh, Mr. Chief Justice and if it pleases the court, and then have like a killer sentence.”
Can a Threat of a War Crime Be a War Crime?
“What he was threatening here by its literal terms was a grave breach of international law. And I feel like the term war crime doesn't quite do it justice. It's crime against humanity.”
The Illusion of International Law and the ICC's Bias
“International law only exists to the extent that someone is willing to enforce that with military force. And it's an agreement among nations that they would rather work this out in a courtroom or in a meeting room of some kind rather than use force.”
Military Obedience vs. Moral Duty: The Case of Unlawful Orders
“The only way to do what the law requires is to just go ahead and basically throw yourself into a court-martial. That that is to just flat out refuse, to create a constitutional crisis.”
“What he was threatening here by its literal terms was a grave breach of international law. And I feel like the term war crime doesn't quite do it justice. It's crime against humanity.”
“You cannot be king of the universe, billionaire AI, venture capitalist developers, et cetera, and then go, well, look what that did. You can't do it.”
“International law only exists to the extent that someone is willing to enforce that with military force. And it's an agreement among nations that they would rather work this out in a courtroom or in a meeting room of some kind rather than use force.”
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Sarah Isger
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David French
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Donald Trump
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Supreme Court
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John Mulaney
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Vladimir Putin
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International Criminal Court
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Last Branch Standing
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Stephen Colbert
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United Nations
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